Topic: Lum or Lamu

[Kroptik]

Wow, so Romanji was created because of the Portuguese?

You just raised my nationalism self-esteem.

[veehive]

As well it should be, Kroptik. As well it should be. :Y

A valuable lesson! Thank you, FallinG_Star! _/-\o_

(and, thanks also to you, UruseiNeo, for the tips. Gonna have to look for that dot I know it's in this keyboard somewhere ... anyone have a prybar and a hammer on 'em? )

[UruseiNeo]

So... your not familiar with... Rōmaji???

"The earliest Japanese romanization system was based on the orthography of Portuguese. It was developed around 1548 by a Japanese Catholic named Yajiro. Jesuit presses used the system in a series of printed Catholic books so that missionaries could preach and teach their converts without learning to read Japanese orthography."

So lets say its Portuguese and japanese... LoL

I didn't think it was japanese cuz you spelled some stuff wrong, there were accent thingies, and the sentence didn't end correctly.

[FallinG_StaR]

That's because its portuguese romaji... that's how we learn it here... LoL

Obviously english doesn't use the "thingies" on top of letters... XD

[veehive]

Part of the "lesson": Romanji can be different depending on the intended target audience! Which makes perfect sense as each "translator" (from the Japanese scripts to Romanji) will base their spelling of it on their native language.

(I really DO love learning things like this! Thanks again and again, FallinG_StaR!)

[FallinG_StaR]

No problem... Wikipedia... sure helps... And I spend lots of time there... to learn new things every day... XD

[Kroptik]

That's because its portuguese romaji... that's how we learn it here... LoL

Obviously english doesn't use the "thingies" on top of letters... XD

That explains why "Watashi" isn't spelled right. But I never knew Romanji varied with the target audience. :O

[cata]

So basically my theory was right?!?! =S Thank you UruseiNeo, Veehive and Falling for the Japanese and Portuguese lessons! ^^

[UruseiNeo]

That's because its portuguese romaji... that's how we learn it here... LoL

Obviously english doesn't use the "thingies" on top of letters... XD

That explains why "Watashi" isn't spelled right. But I never knew Romanji varied with the target audience. :O

Spelled Nihonjin wrong too. He had a "d" in it. Also ended the sentence wrong, it should end with "desu"

XD How many forum topics have I pointed out that most of the sentences end in "desu" lol

[FallinG_StaR]

Hmm... Do I need to point out that I used a "How to speak japanese" portuguese book?

And not an English one?

For us portuguese we do use diferent grammar and phonetics... for example the "s" in desu we would read like "dezu" so we need to make it like "dê-se" to sound/speak it correctly...

Now I know where the japanese got their weird vocabulary... XD

[cata]

Dude the portuguese word "tempero" (culinária) in japanese they say "tempura". xD

[Urusei0Yatsura]

I've watched a few random UY eps recently episodes and it appears that the characters refer to her as both Lum and Lamu.

Offtopic: There is no such thing as a Japanese keyboard, they all use regular QWERTY keyboards and type in the syllabillic sounds using the common 26 western characters (the syllabilic sounds for Japanese using A-Z letters is called romaji) that then turns it into katakana, hiragana and kanjii. The reason for this is because there are so many letters and they have three different alphabets the Japanese (four if you count romaji)

I have found a free download for a word processor that was recommended by Sussex University that is Windows compatible; Linux and Unix versions are also available. This is how all regular keyboards in Japan work.


http://www.physics.ucla.edu/~grosenth/jwpce.html

[spotless]

well , i know her as lum and lamu.

in japanese her name sounds "lamu" but there are some episodes that they say "lum"
what the hell, she's lum.

[cata]

Offtopic: There is no such thing as a Japanese keyboard, they all use regular QWERTY keyboards and type in the syllabillic sounds using the common 26 western characters (the syllabilic sounds for Japanese using A-Z letters is called romaji) that then turns it into katakana, hiragana and kanjii. The reason for this is because there are so many letters and they have three different alphabets the Japanese (four if you count romaji)

Don't get offended but do you have proof?


And she's Lum!!!! She has an appron with "LUM" on it!!! It's pronunciation is LAMU! Like, my name is "CATARINA" but it's pronounce is "Cuh-tuh-ree-nuh"

[veehive]

The name "Lum" is partially taken from Cino-American bikini model Agnes Lum (who was popular in Japan at that time). "Lum" is a foreign word to the Japanese, so to pronounce it they modify its pronunciation to suit the Japanese tongue (so-to-speak), using "ra" (ラ) and "mu" (ム) to produce the "ramu" we hear if we listen to the Japanese language tracks.