Author Topic: Bad Karma?! (Read 9848 times)

cata · « **on:** January 11, 2009, 12:25:32 AM »

Sidzero who the hell you think you are to judge whether this or that artist is good or bad? If you know so much about psychology then you must know that art knowledge and preferences aren't universals. Each person has its own opinions and preferences. Just because you don't like some things it doesn't mean that everyone will agree with you.

sidzero · « **Reply #1 on:** January 11, 2009, 01:44:42 AM »

Am I not entitled to an opinion? Am I not entitled to state that opinion? I have my reasons for not liking music built like an assembly line product and artists who are little more than a pretty face attached to sell said product. My attitude towards music comes from a time where we, as musicians (former, in my case), still respected music as an art. I don't expect people to agree with me, because I don't expect them to have the same experience or perspective as me. I just prefer art to something mass produced. I, personally, still haven't accepted art as a dying breed.

Though, now that I think about it, that kind of explains why I prefer manga to anime, too. Anime, usually, is little more than an ad for the manga it's based on, to me. Hmmm. Never thought of it like that before...

UruseiNeo · « **Reply #2 on:** January 11, 2009, 02:18:55 AM »

You are indeed entitled to an opinion... but there are limits to this entitlement.

For example, if my opinion was that you should be stabbed to death, not saying it is but hypothetically, if that was my opinion, then people would get mad and it would turn into a big deal.

There is criticism... and then there is flat out insulting. It is one thing to talk about how something is not very strong and could use some improvement, but it is another to trash talk about it and say it suks.

Example: Though I have tried on a few occasions, I can't sit through Gundam Anime, not MECH anime, specifically the Gundam series. I dunno why but it doesn't catch my interest. Now, despite the fact that I don't like Gundam anime, I would never talk bad about it and tell people it suks in any way because I know that there are thousands of people who DO like it and for good reasons. It's more of a personal lack of taste in the subject than anything else so I don't have the right to trash it.

sidzero · « **Reply #3 on:** January 11, 2009, 04:22:13 AM »

Yes, but is it wrong to, say, prefer a slice of home-made pie to one that comes wrapped in a Hostess wrapper? What's the difference? Is it insulting to describe something for how it is? Pop music is recorded like an assembly line product. There is a very distinct formula to writing something simple like a pop song. It doesn't exactly take much talent or creativity to apply it. I simply cannot have any sort of appreciation for it.

UruseiNeo · « **Reply #4 on:** January 11, 2009, 04:28:40 AM »

Yes but in your example, you don't call the "Hostess wrapped pie" crap.

You didn't say you preferred a certain music to the ones we were discussing, you flat out called it "Crap"

Quote from: sidzero on January 10, 2009, 02:48:07 AM

Kids still listen to that kinda crap?

I don't have particular appreciation in Gundam either but I still stand by the fact that there are many people who do.

sidzero · « **Reply #5 on:** January 11, 2009, 04:45:18 AM »

Well Hostess pies are crap, too. So is Gundam, for that matter.

UruseiNeo · « **Reply #6 on:** January 11, 2009, 05:15:54 AM »

*sigh* He doesn't get it.

It's like talking to a wall. Which would be a lot more satisfying if we hung a flat screen TV on it.

Then we could watch Urusei Yatsura ^_^

Hey, let's do that! Cata, ur a mod, when Sid posts you can edit a youtube video into his post XD

UruseiNeo · « **Reply #7 on:** January 11, 2009, 04:19:44 PM »

Personally, I have no opinion on these particular singers, but I stand for what is right.

The way Sid worded it was like they suk so bad they should stop producing music. The point of all this is that you need to consider other people's feelings before you open your mouth.

cata · « **Reply #8 on:** January 11, 2009, 05:23:51 PM »

That is exactly what I was trying to say, UruseiNeo!

Of course I listen to other types of music and artists. I listen and like rock, metal, techno, RnB, etc.

But like, Sid, let's imagine that your favourite colour is... yellow. And now everyone's saying that whoever likes yellow is a sissy. I bet you wouldn't like even though you would say "I don't care about what people think" and bla bla bla. And it would make you even more uncomfortable when people start acting on what they think.

Fine, I like A but you don't. Does that give you the right to insult me or the artist just because you don't like it? Of course you can criticize its music as long as you don't insult and stuff like that.

It's like "I don't like A because it sucks.". This doesn't make sense because you didn't explain why it sucks. You could say "I don't like A because it's just for the money.". This is a good way of criticizing because it gives an explanation of why you don't like it.

And no I would never do that to Sid or anyone else (mod abuse)!

FallinG_StaR · « **Reply #9 on:** January 11, 2009, 06:12:16 PM »

Hmmm... I don't know what you talking about... (I didn't read all posts) But after reading one of Sidzero posts... and believe me I'm laughing a lot while posting this... I have to ask him (Sid) something...

Is there anything that you haven't tried in your life?

Oh... Btw... everyone is allowed to give their opinions on everything... but... only share them if its something worth it...

Because most of the times they sound just like... Ah right... Crap.

sidzero · « **Reply #10 on:** January 12, 2009, 03:13:57 AM »

So for me to have an opinion that differs from yours, and not be afraid of expressing that opinion because someone might be offended... that makes me bad? Why is that any different than expressing a positive opinion about something? Where's the difference between describing something as "awesome" and describing it like "crap"?

Quote from: UruseiNeo on January 11, 2009, 04:19:44 PM

The way Sid worded it was like they suk so bad they should stop producing music.

I never EVER said they should stop producing music. In fact, I said the very reason why they SHOULD continue it. Without mass-produced pop music, record labels will tank because that stuff is all that's left for the corporations to make their money from. If the corporations go under, I would consider that a huge loss, because I don't see them as wholly evil entities out to ruin music. They simply exist to give us music, and a variety of from which to choose, and in order to successfully do so, they need to make a profit at it.

Quote from: cata on January 11, 2009, 05:23:51 PM

But like, Sid, let's imagine that your favourite colour is... yellow. And now everyone's saying that whoever likes yellow is a sissy. I bet you wouldn't like even though you would say "I don't care about what people think" and bla bla bla.

Honestly, it wouldn't bother me at all. In fact, I'd probably even laugh at it because of how utterly ridiculous a statement like that would be. If yellow were my favorite color, and someone said something like "yellow is an ugly color", that wouldn't bother me either. I respect everyone's right to have and state an opinion, as long as they respect my right to have and state mine. If someone decides to take someone's opinion personally and get offended by it, that should be their problem, not the problem of the person stating the opinion. They're just words. People who get hurt by words only do so because they WANT to be hurt by words. Either that or they're pretending to be hurt so they have an excuse to pick a fight. Like now. Does my opinion of that kind of music really bother you THAT much? Or are you just trying to "teach me a lesson about manners" or some such nonsense?

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It's like "I don't like A because it sucks.". This doesn't make sense because you didn't explain why it sucks. You could say "I don't like A because it's just for the money.". This is a good way of criticizing because it gives an explanation of why you don't like it.

Hmmm. Maybe you missed it, but I did explain why I don't like it. Do I need to repeat myself? Okay then, I will.

I said I don't like it because of it's assembly line nature. I prefer my music to be artistic, as opposed to something created from the beginning to the end to be little more than a product. These mass-produced pop "artists" do not write their own music. They do not write their own lyrics. They don't play any of the instruments. Sometimes, they don't even sing their own songs. Often when they do, their voices are so processed that it can hardly still be called "their voice".

I'll be honest, every so often there comes along a pop song I like. It's to be expected because of the nature of the formula (which if you really want, I could explain, but I don't think you'd want to, because it might ruin your opinion of modern music as it has mine). It just bothers me the way it's handled. It's not art anymore, and that makes me sad.

Quote from: FallinG_StaR on January 11, 2009, 06:12:16 PM

Is there anything that you haven't tried in your life?

Quite a few things, actually. There are just a lot of things I have done because the last thing I want out of life is to be normal. I suppose you could say one of my two goals in life is to become someone, somehow, that people will still remember after 300 years, 500 years, even a thousand years. Haven't quite figured out how I'll do it yet, but I'll think of something.

I'm sure I can come up with a list of things I've never done if you really want some examples.

UruseiNeo · « **Reply #11 on:** January 12, 2009, 04:20:15 AM »

Dude, it's not even ABOUT your opinion, its the way you freaking word it. You say it like that and people will think your an a****le. Mission accomplished, by the way.

Sid: "Does my opinion of that kind of music really bother you THAT much? Or are you just trying to "teach me a lesson about manners" or some such nonsense?"

Yeah, basically you come off as very rude in general.

I've said it once, and I'll say it again. There's constructive criticism and then there's flat out insulting. You wanna voice your opinion? Fine, do it in a critique way that doesn't sound like your ideal is the truth. But if you're going to just post that it's crap then you may as well be spamming.

Case and point; on some of my videos I get posts that are no more complicated than "Dub suks" and that IS spam. That's not very different than what your FIRST post about this was; even if you did expand on it in later posts, you still started this by calling the music "crap"

FallinG_StaR · « **Reply #12 on:** January 12, 2009, 04:33:57 AM »

Quote from: sidzero on January 11, 2009, 04:45:18 AM

Well Hostess pies are crap, too. So is Gundam, for that matter.

This is what I'm talking about... It's not that I'm a big fan of Gundam, but really... just saying Gundam is crap... that opinion for me is worth as much as your ranking... crap.

It's just kinda... retarded... (no offense) If you know what I mean...

This is a forum... obviously there will be users with different opinions/likes/choices whatever... and the least we should do is respect their opinions... and not simply say that A or B singer is crap or whatever... If you going to say something say something constructive... and most of all try respecting others... they're not the ones to blame for their tastes or even yours...

And Sid... good luck on your life goals... but remember only History books will remember great things or great people... Because people forget and even books are forgotten...

sidzero · « **Reply #13 on:** January 12, 2009, 08:38:10 AM »

Quote from: UruseiNeo on January 12, 2009, 04:20:15 AM

You say it like that and people will think your an a****le.

If being an ******* means I'm able to speak my mind without censure, without caring whether or not some crybaby is going to complain about the way I word things, without bowing to the arrogant whims of others who think they have any kind of moral right to tell me how to think, act or behave, then yes. I am an *******, and I am proud of it.

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Fine, do it in a critique way that doesn't sound like your ideal is the truth.

Oh, I get it. It's because I have the voice of authority on the matter. Well, in that case, pardon me for knowing what I'm talking about. I'll have to be more like a moron with no clue on the subject, like everyone else is, right?

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That's not very different than what your FIRST post about this was; even if you did expand on it in later posts, you still started this by calling the music "crap"

Go back and read my first post. I've been saying the same thing all along. Yes, I further clarified it in later posts, but even in that first post, I said the same thing I've been saying all along.

At least I haven't been eagerly anticipating a time when I could get into yet another forum fight. I can tell by the fact that you had really had little to say until you could jump into another fight with me. I hate pathetic little pissants like you.

And the fact that everyone around here seems to be condoning this kind of ********, and that I will probably walk away from this as the bad guy...

I have one thing to say to all that.

**** this ********

I think I'm done here.

cata · « **Reply #14 on:** January 12, 2009, 10:07:13 PM »

So you think it's right to insult others just because they don't think it's right to insult others. I'm not saying that you're the bad guy here. In fact, I don't think anyone shares that opinion about you.

No one told you how to think. We just told you about how you express your ideas and personal believes. No one said that you can't be yourself.

Look I bet your band is not into pop music but I tell you something: nowadays, lyrics aren't important as long as there are rhymes into it. All that is important is beat and looks. That's how this society sees music whether it's pop, rap, hip-hop, RnB, rock, etc. Of course there are some exceptions. How many people don't care about the lyrics? I see people on the bus I catch everyday just waving their heads or doing the rythim with their hands or feet and when they "sing" pretty much all of them sing like this: "mmmmmh huh-huh oh yeah na na na na love you". And those who sings the lyrics don't even know what they actually mean.

I don't want you to leave the Forum. I don't think anyone wants it. To be honest, you're one of the people that I admire the most in this Forum. You're very intelligent and smart and I think that if you participated in our NB (Nightmare Battle) thread you would be an excelent Mary-Sue. xD

Look I edited your post but I only removed the curse and the swearing words.

Now, changing subject:

Is she the same singer?

UruseiNeo · « **Reply #15 on:** January 12, 2009, 10:14:48 PM »

*Raises Hand* I sorta share that opinion -.-

But only cause He's never said anything nice in front of me. Aside from that, I don't really care, but I WAS trying to point out the "We just told you about how you express your ideas and personal believes." part.

Aaaaanyways... Case and point, I listen to Japanese Music most of the time so yeah, lyrics aren't very important XD XD XD

UruseiNeo · « **Reply #16 on:** January 19, 2009, 05:58:22 AM »

Ima gonna take this time to make a formal apology.

I apologize for taking the debate with Sidzero as far as it went and to him for ticking him off.

I wanna take this opportunity to clear something up though, it seems you believe that I my only purpose on this forum is to fight with you, Sid. I believe I mislead you when I made a statement along the lines of "Arguing with [Sidzero] is fun"

What I enjoyed was the difference in ideals and the opportunity to formally debate the two opinions so we could share the different facts we didn't know about the subject before. But I'm starting to think that you thought I was personally attacking you. You being as intelligent as you are, I naturally thought we could discuss a wide variety of angles on a single subject, which could be viewed by other forum members.

However, this certain debate went beyond the boundaries of friendly debating as we both went into ad hominem argumentative states, I apologize for this. But I do want to make sure you know that I only debated on subjects I had a personal opinion of. You may notice that there ARE times where I AGREE with you on some subjects, and other times where I neglect to debate with anything at all because I simply do not have any knowledge of that topic.

With that, I leave everyone with another Rock The Planet video I found:

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sidzero · « **Reply #17 on:** January 20, 2009, 05:40:16 AM »

Since certain people can't seem to stand the fact that I'm offended by their behavior, don't even seem to understand WHY I'm offended by their behavior, I'm getting asked to make a comeback, and because I want to make my points clear, here I am, posting again. Whether or not I stay, well that depends on the people here. If my gripes are addressed, then maybe I will stay. If not, and the reasons I left remain the same, then I have no reason to come back and I will leave again.

But first and foremost, I'm going to say that I will NOT apologize for calling pop music crap. You can criticize my opinions all you want, but before a single one of you says "oh you can't just call something crap and not say why, that's rude," why don't you go back and read what I actually said. Did I or did I not also in that first post criticize it for being "mass produced" and "generic"? That has been my complaint about it the whole time. Even as I further clarified my opinions after people started whining about me being rude, all I did was say the same thing in more words. If you can't understand that, then too bad.

The next issue I want to take up with is specifically with UruseiNeo and his attitude. But before that, tell me, when you apologize, is that not supposed to be an admission of doing wrong? Why then do you post this garbage where you "apologize" while STILL trying to turn the blame out on me? "Oh, I'm sorry, but it's all your fault for misunderstanding me." That is not an apology. It's a cheap way of making it look like you're apologizing to placate those who criticize your behavior, while avoiding any admission of doing wrong.

Next, I want to ask you something, UruseiNeo. Why did you even jump in this argument in the first place? For the moment, let's skip over the issue you address in your mock apology. I'll get to that in a minute, but I'd like to make a point here about another issue I'd like to take up with about you. Look back at the history of this thread. After I made that first post where I called pop music crap, you replied, and assuming you read what my post said, you didn't seem to have any problem with what I had to say at all. It wasn't until cata said something about it that you decided to start championing the cause. I can only come up with two possible explanations for this behavior. It can only be one, or the other, or a little bit of both. Care to explain which it is? Either you're trying to be cata's "white knight", trying to defend her because you at some level believe she can't handle arguing with me for herself, or because you didn't care until you saw an argument, felt left out that you weren't a part of it, then picked a side and jumped in. Beyond those two possible reasons, I don't see any other explanation for why you wouldn't have criticized me in the first reply after what I said, and instead waited until someone else said something. The only other possibility is that it bothered you, but you didn't want to say anything unless someone else did first because you're too afraid to confront me, but I think it's safe to rule this possibility out based on your previous behavior.

Now, lets get into the issue addressed in your mock apology. I had to address that other issue first because it makes my point here easier to illustrate. My issue here is you claiming not to seek out arguments with me. You may deny it now because it's making you look bad, but when you said arguing with me is fun, it was quite clear that you meant it. Trying to change that now by saying "oh, I really meant this when I actually said that" doesn't work. Especially when your behavior since saying it has clearly demonstrated that my interpretation was correct. I can't even count how many times you've tried getting me into some argument or another over something, usually completely unrelated to the topic of a thread. I'm sure all the people who have complained about us going off topic in a thread might remember a few of them, even if your selective memory doesn't. I understand it completely, you've found someone who's good at presenting a strong argument, and as such you've found a rival with which you can practice your own argumentative skills with. I'm well aware of my skills, and I'm also well aware of the fact that my own personality forces me to argue my opinion any chance I get. But I'm also well aware of the fact that people don't want to see people arguing over such inane, and irrelevant, things. This is why I try to avoid arguments on the internet. People don't want to see it. It's been made clear that they don't want to see it here. I believe you have this same problem of not being able to stop from arguing your opinions. But if you have any respect for the people of this forum, you should do the same as I do and avoid arguments here. If you want somewhere where you can practice those skills, there are plenty of blogging sites with opinionated people just waiting to defend their opinions from any and all takers. Go there. Don't bring it here. I was more than willing to leave this board for this very purpose. It's not my place to tell you to leave this board, you have every right to be here and every right to post here. But if I'm going to stay, it's absolutely essential that you leave this attitude behind.

Now, I have an issue that needs to be taken up for everyone else here, especially all of the people who were complaining about my attitude in this thread. People were claiming me to be insulting, but why do I get ripped apart for being insulting, but then when arguing against me, UruseiNeo specifically insulted me, and not a god damned one of you said anything about that. Other than in my last post the only insulting thing I said was to call pop music crap, but once UruseiNeo started putting words in my mouth, everyone acted like that was what I was saying. He says I don't get it, like I'm too stupid to understand what you guys are saying, when I never once disputed what you were saying? Then the guy turns around, says I'm spamming, and calls me an asshole. Where do you people get off on this? Why am I the only one being criticized here? I call a genre of music crap and you all declare war on me, but the guy calls me an asshole but because he's on your side, it's okay? You really think I'm going to take this hypocritical garbage and NOT get angry? I will NOT be your scapegoat. You wanna say freedom of speech as long as you use tact, fine. But unless you practice what you preach, and vilify EVERYONE who doesn't conform, none of you have any place to criticize me when I don't either. This is exactly what I meant when I said I'm being made out to be the bad guy.

Also, in regards to a specific comment that I made. When I was asked to come back, I was pretty much told that I had to apologize for being insulting to everyone. The only thing I said that I believe could be interpreted as being insulting to everyone is when I said "I'll have to be more like a moron with no clue on the subject, like everyone else is, right?" That was not directed to everyone. If you believe I was calling everyone a moron, then go reread that comment in context. That was not my intent. My intention was to illustrate that the comment I was responding to was stated as if to say everyone else was a moron because my opinions carry the weight of authority. Sorry, but I'm not going to make some kind of mock apology because someone else misinterpreted the intention behind my words. I've given my explanation and I regret any misinterpretation, but accept it or not, I don't particularly care.

I'm sorry, but I will not apologize for my behavior. As far as I'm concerned it was completely justified. Maybe I went a little far in using such strong vulgarities, but if it gets my point across, then the ends justify the means as far as I'm concerned. I stand firm by everything I've said, and if someone doesn't like it, that's their problem, not mine. If you dislike it so much, then either don't let anyone change any of their behavior, and I'll go right back to having left on my own, or change, so that my opinions are no longer correct.

I've said what I needed to say. I really don't expect my words to affect anything (and honestly, I expect UruseiNeo, the person whom most of these words are too, won't even read it, and give the excuse that it's "too long"... again). But maybe someone will get the message. It's really not my concern anymore. It's enough that I'm giving things a chance to change.

UruseiNeo · « **Reply #18 on:** January 20, 2009, 06:00:15 AM »

I tried to apologize for misleading you T_T

As for that first post... I didn't read it at the time XD you'll notice that my post was refering to Cata's post before urs. I guess I read hers first, replied to it, then forgot that you posted too :/

And arguing is basically the same as debating, at least that's what I assumed when I talked about it. Guess I was wrong XD

Actually, when I find myself talking offtopic, I'll sometimes try to bring the conversation back ONtopic again, I've done so a few times here.

I don't think I directly called u an a-hole. I think I actually censoured it too. I DID say that you were giving that impression AT THE TIME.
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I enjoyed that reading, thank you ^_^

I can apologize again, even if it only makes you feel A LITTLE better, but I kinda doubt you're going to take anything I say seriously.

Aside from that, there's NOTHING I can do to help here.

Oh! Maybe I could leave the forum instead! Would that make u feel better, Sid?
Dude... I'm not being sarcastic...

sidzero · « **Reply #19 on:** January 20, 2009, 08:15:12 AM »

First off, if you're going to apologize, then make a real apology, instead of trying to patronize me. You may think it's going to placate me, but all it does is piss me off even more. But I bet you don't even accept that you've done any wrong, so a real apology from you is likely impossible.

Second, whether you leave or not is up to you. It's not my place to tell you one way or another, and I don't really care either way. What I ask is that you quit trying to instigate arguments with me. You have no idea how sick I am of people like you who come along, make me the bad guy of the forum, and turn everyone against me to the point where any time I say something, someone feels the need to criticize me, when all I want is to be make the occasional witty or sarcastic remark and be left in peace. It's a cycle that has repeated itself time and again on several forums for me for the past 16 years. It's even happened on forums I've moderated, which ended up literally killing them.

Nest, arguing is not the same as debating. In a debate, there are certain rules, a set format, and the issues debated do not change throughout the debate. In all my years on the internet, I have yet to find any forum where people debate, only ones where people argue.

I also don't buy that you simply "forgot" I posted something in a thread, or missed it in any other way, considering that your post was directly after my post, with a whole hour between the two. I didn't point that out so that you could make excuses. I pointed it out to help you recognize where your actions were wrong. But of course, you missed that point completely.

Finally, directly or not, censored or not, you still called me an asshole. But again, you missed the point completely. I called myself an asshole right after that, so it should have been obvious that it wasn't the point. The point was that I was pissed off that no one seemed to criticize you for doing so, but me calling something crap provoked this entire argument to begin with (and I don't care what anyone was saying, this argument was never about me not explaining my opinion or being disrespectful, it was because cata didn't like me calling her favorite music crap, and everyone had to defend her like they were her stormtroopers). I was trying to demonstrate the hypocrisy of everyone criticizing me, but not criticizing you. You demonstrated yourself as being just as guilty of being disrespectful as I was, but because you did it as part of criticizing me, it was okay. It's not.

UruseiNeo · « **Reply #20 on:** January 20, 2009, 03:33:13 PM »

*yawn* just got up, kinda sleepy.

I have tried to apologize already, it's not my fault if you don't believe me, you choose not to. I already apologized for calling u an a-hole, "we both went into ad hominem argumentative states, I apologize for this"

There is no "real apology" because there's nothing I could say to make you happy at this point.

This is the LAST TIME I'm going to do this... I apologize for the arguments, making u the bad guy, insulting and such.

Based on your facts alone, I can't deny that the situation seems as you said, but knowing my PERSONAL SELF, I wouldn't have seen that. If the case is as you see it then I apologize for that too.

cata · « **Reply #21 on:** January 20, 2009, 09:46:48 PM »

Okay guys, I'm going to express my opinion! UruseiNeo DID appologize. Whether Sidzero accepts it or not is his problem.

Let's move on, please. =)

FallinG_StaR · « **Reply #22 on:** January 26, 2009, 02:24:41 AM »

Hmm... After reading this topic again and finding that the post that caused all this is before one of mine...

I have to apologize to Sidzero... I honestly didn't see that post... I do remember that I got a warning saying that someone posted something but I ignored it and posted what I was posting and moved on... and probably logged out.

Another thing is... I never took sides on this... my first post on this topic was about you calling Gundam crap... XD

My second post I still talking about Gundam and the fact that saying simply that Gundam is crap is kinda retarded or to put it less offensive kinda childish...

The continuation of the 2nd post was that I read the topic and the fact you said, "Kids still listen to that kinda crap?"

And this was my answer to that...

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This is a forum... obviously there will be users with different opinions/likes/choices whatever... and the least we should do is respect their opinions... and not simply say that A or B singer is crap or whatever... If you going to say something say something constructive... and most of all try respecting others... they're not the ones to blame for their tastes or even yours...

If anyone sees anything they don't like in this forum they can always PM me and I'll see that the right action will be aplied... we (mostly you all) canot assume that we (Mods) are always around or see everything... I for once sometimes just ignore topics where Sid and Neo are arguing... now I see I shouldn't have... and for that I apologize to everyone mostly Sid.

And btw, I may have to delete all posts not directly linked to the topic... but I'll wait to see if you (Sid, Neo & Cata) agree or not with that.

UruseiNeo · « **Reply #23 on:** January 26, 2009, 02:55:48 AM »

Any chance you can move them to a new topic like before? =3

I don't like to throw my old stuff away. I tend to try and keep the memories

sidzero · « **Reply #24 on:** January 26, 2009, 02:10:35 PM »

Yes, please delete it. I could really care less, because once everyone stops posting in this thread, I doubt anyone will have any reason to look over this nonsense again, but it would be quicker and easier to just delete it so no one has any reason to continue it. I'm tired of looking at it.

cata · « **Reply #25 on:** January 26, 2009, 09:44:39 PM »

Falling do whatever you want to solve this nonsense. I trust you. ^_^

Even if the posts don't get erased it won't mess with whether your still angry at each other or not because the damage was done.

UruseiNeo I only like to keep good memories (though it's hard because so many bad things happen and these are so hard to forget about them...) but if you would like to keep them as memories, just copy paste the conversation and put it on a written document or take a picture or just don't do nothing and keep it in your head or something.

Sidzero, I'm not insulting or being mean to you but if you're tired of looking at it, why don't you look at another direction? Joking, of course. =)

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