Topic: Urusei Yatsura and its influence on other Manga/Anime/etc

[cata]

Hey guys! Well... I think after reading this topic's title you get an idea of what this is about. So I was watching "SailorMoon S" series and on episode 113 the enemy (the monster, not the female that controls the monster) was... Lum! Yes... it was Lum. Well, not as sexy and beautiful as we know her but it's an alternative version of Lum!

I remember that there are a few topics about this but I searched for them and I couldn't find any.

[oni]

I  saw  the  episode on  youtube  that  moster  did  not  look  or  resemble  anithing  like  lum.  The  only  thing  they  have  in  similar  is  that  they  were  tigre  stripe  clotes.  I  thing  they  were  making  a  refrense  to  the  mythology  of  the  oni  not  the  animated  series  Urusei yatsura.

[cata]

If you look closer you can see that it has green hair and horns. It's a female aswell. For those who have watched the series you'll notice that the monsters aren't from mythology, but from nowadays objects. SailorMoon was influenced by the Greek Mythology, not Japanese Mythology. I believe that RT's Lum influenced this monster.

[sidzero]

Are you sure it's not a Rorschach effect, where you're only seeing it because it's what you want to see?

[cata]

Ok, let's compare:

Watch Dragon Ball 4th episode. You'll see an oni: white horns, tiger-stripped rags, "dangerous" teeth, muscular and red. He carries a club with him, too. These are common aspects between the tradicional onis.

Of course Lum and this oni are similar but they're very different, too.

I searched for images of female onis and I couldn't find any. I went to wikipedia and it didn't say anything about female and male oni (I didn't read the whole page but I read the most of it so I appologize if I'm not correct. I have to prepare my house to give a warm welcome to 2009.).

In Sailor Moon, there's a rule: every sailor senshi (sailor soldiers) have to be women. And a huge part of their enemies (not only the monsters but the big villains, too) are female. Well, actually every single monster in Sailor Moon is female.

Maybe the creator of Sailor Moon changed the oni a bit so he could fit the story but I think it could really be Urusei Yatsura influence in this one.

[sidzero]

Traditional female oni are actually supposed to be beautiful women who become monsters at night. I don't remember where I learned that, but I do remember learning it from somewhere.

If you're going to mention Dragonball, then let's talk about the actual cameo that appears in Dragonball... there's always the Ten and Torajima cameos I pointed out in this thread when I first started showing up around here.


Personally, I can't say whether the monster you're talking about may or may not be Lum. I absolutely positively refuse to ever watch Sailor Moon (there is a reason that I don't feel like sharing). Why not post a screenshot, so we can decide for ourselves?

[cata]

I can't find a screenshot. And in my opinion it's stupid refusing to watch ONE episode of Sailor Moon. You don't even have to watch the whole thing: just push the video thing to the right until you see the monster attacking the girls, pause and examine the monster.

I clicked on the "link" you posted but my Mozilla Firefox can't find a webpage with that address. I don't remember you posting on a thread about Torajima & Ten on Dragon Ball but I guess there's an explanation for it: I was absent for a very very long time and I appologize for that.

[FallinG_StaR]

Give me the link to that episode... because the episode 113 that I find in Youtube the monsters doesn't look like Lum... XD

[sidzero]

No wonder, I jacked up the link. It's fixed now. And yes, you were here when I posted it, you replied with a post welcoming me to the forum less than an hour after I posted it.

It's on page 3.


And there's a reason I refuse to watch Sailor Moon. Like I said, I don't want to go into it, but it's a good reason.

[cata]

Ah! I remember now! Sorry about that... and here's the link Forgotten requested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re_sP5xMv9s

I didn't meant to say that the monster looks just like Lum. I mean Lum is "meant" to be beautiful, sweet, etc. What if Lum was "meant" to be just like the mythological (did I just made up a word? If I did I appologize) japanese oni this could be what she looks like.

In a way, she looks like Lum.

[FallinG_StaR]

Hmm... Why do you always call me Forgotten???

Anyway... the tiger strip clothes and the horns... yes they're there...

[dak]

they are there but what make you think she was Lum my lady?

[cata]

I'm sorry I don't pay atention to what I write (to Mr Falling and to Mr Forgotten).

Dak, I didn't mean that Lum was the demon. I'm trying to say that it reminded me of Lum because they have so many things in common, even though they're oni. It just gave me a "Lum vibe".

[dak]

i see, in common you said, just tiger strip and horn, i think i got your point my lady

[cata]

Not only that, but the hair aswell.