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« on: March 09, 2008, 09:01:53 PM »
Talk about choice. It's taken me ages to decide.

It's not easy to make a decision of this magnitude :)

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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2008, 09:42:17 PM »
You know, being the one who created the poll, I should be allowed to see what the votes are even if I set it so it doesn't show till the end of march...

Shutaro, r u the one who made the AMV called Lum uninvites you? The one where there's like MAJOR well done timing for Lum singing?

If so, I have a few questions.


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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2008, 10:36:10 PM »
I did produce Lum uninvites you. It was a while ago though :)

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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2008, 10:37:50 PM »
I have a few questions about the timing.

First, what program did you use for making that amv?

Are there any tips or tricks to timing the lum clips to speak the lyrics?


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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2008, 05:11:55 AM »
You know, it's going to take me some time to make a proper decision about this one. It's not an easy decision. I'll have to run through the whole series again, for one. It's not like it's voting for president or anything (that's an easy choice).


I assume this has something to do with the near conclusion of posting the final season of UY over on youtube?
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2008, 05:22:50 AM »
Yes, that's why you have about a month to get in ur votes. Hopefully that's long enough, a lot of the episodes are easy to remember the plot on.

I had already planned on making this contest for a few months.


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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2008, 06:55:18 PM »
I have a few questions about the timing.

First, what program did you use for making that amv?

Are there any tips or tricks to timing the lum clips to speak the lyrics?
Off topic, but answering the question above.

I used Ulead MediaStudio Pro 7.

The syncing was created from screen grabs of the same scene with her mouth in the 3 stages of talking (Closed, half open and open). Because screen grabs don't move and it all looks very static its best to just mask a moving clip (even if it is only a few frames repeated) with the mouth over layed on top, then you can get her to say anything you like. That's how most of the synced scenes were made, the rest were just clips with tweaked speeds so her mouth moved when it was meant to. Hope that helps :)


Back on topic, don't panic about this poll too much. Your choices should really be based on the episodes you have the fondest memories of.
Watching them all again before voting seems a little extreme   ;)
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2008, 11:32:56 PM »
K, I kinda understood that but to be sure I'll get my friend to show me too after getting him to read what you said. Thank you ^_^

Alright, so all three sites are notified of the contest being taken place. Let's hope we can create a good new top 10.

PS, the question about how to sync lips is technically not quite off topic cause I need it for the top 10 episode thing.

Oh! What's UruseiNeo thinking? what's he thinking? Well I tell you now I'm not gonna sync my voice to anything.


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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2008, 07:48:23 AM »
Watching them all again before voting seems a little extreme   ;)

Not really, I was planning on watching the whole run of the series again soon anyway. Next time I get a few days free and don't have something else that needs to be done right away.


As far as the lip syncing thing, what you described is the basic trick of lip syncing in ANY kind of animation. Anime makes it easier because you don't have to worry about things like making the jaw move with the mouth or necessarily changing the facial expression a lot when speaking (as long as the emotion of the voice doesn't call for it). It's a tip I picked up for when I do Flash animation. Start with a static picture of the characters head, but without the mouth, and then add a mouth that moves properly with the words being spoken. 3 states of the mouth is the minimum, though. I use a few more than just the 3 you say because it looks a little more realistic. After all, your mouth looks a little different depending on what sounds you're making. Just talk to a mirror sometime, and see the difference between making an "O" or a "U" sound (small and round) and making an "A" or "Ah" sound (fully open). It's a good trick though.
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2008, 02:29:56 PM »
First I need to get that Ulead program. My friend says he has it but I don't know whether I can get it in time.

Anywhere I can download it?


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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2008, 10:35:24 PM »
First off, I really want to thank you and all the others who put up those episodes.

Secondly, this poll really makes me glad that as I went along I kept a list of my favotie episodes, it'd be a nightmare to try to keep track without it.

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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2008, 11:18:07 PM »
You're welcome ^_^


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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2008, 02:29:49 PM »
First I need to get that Ulead program. My friend says he has it but I don't know whether I can get it in time.

Anywhere I can download it?
I bought the program from http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/gb/en/Product/1181657926967

They let you download a trial version. I don't know if they have all the features but that's probably your best bet.

Personal note - I've had my Virgin Media broadband upgraded from 4mb to 10mb, sadly this has an average transfer rate of 150byes per second. The internet 'times out' on virtually everything other than a text file. So please forgive me if my response was a little tardy  :)

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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2008, 05:30:08 PM »
Thanks I was actually hoping to find it without paying though ^_^'''


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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2008, 11:34:42 AM »
It was a difficult process choosing only 10. I ended up narrowing the field down to less than 30, and from those, chose the 10 best. Very hard choices, indeed. But here's what I chose, and why:

Episode 1 - I'm Lum the Notorious / It's Raining Oil in Our Town

What can I say? It was the first episode and the one that brought Lum to the Earth. Without this story, really, none of the others can take place. Probably the most important episode of all.

Episode 10 - Pitter Patter Christmas Eve

All in all, just a great episode. It showed us how much Lum really cares for Ataru, and for the first time in the anime, shows the seeds of love for Lum that have been sown in Ataru.

Episode 25 - Fly, Imo-chan!

Probably my favorite (and one of the most under-rated) episode. Ataru and Lum's rapport is shown so well in this episode that you can't help but love it. Not to mention the inclusion of who could best be described as their "child" together.

Episode 42 - Drunkard’s Boogie

Though it's played off more as Lum getting "drunk", if you know what's what, you can tell she's a little beyond just drunk... she's trippin' balls (if you excuse the language) straight up.

Episode 44 - After You’ve Gone

You know, I just have to agree with countless Japanese during the original airing of the series, that this is certainly one of the best. Number one, I don't know, but it's definitely good. Ataru crying over Lum being gone? Come on!

Episode 64 - The Season For Goodbyes

Quite simply, this and the manga chapter it's based on, in my opinion, is one of the funniest stories in the whole of the series. The manga was funnier, what with everyone breaking the 4th wall and fighting for who's going to take over as lead role in the series, but the anime did a good interpretation as well.

Episode 91 - Document! Who’ll Be Miss Tomobiki?

Though the anime version of this story was a bastardization of the original manga story, I have to say, that this is the one case I can think of where the anime made the story FUNNIER. The whole political faction battle is just epic.

Episode 117 - Lum the Cow

Sure, Lum's paranoia was just getting to her, but once Ataru learned of what she thought was going to happen, he really went out of his way to take care of her, and try and cheer her up.

Episode 172 - An Importunate Happiness Salesman, Blue Bird!

The story with the Bluebird of Happiness, in my opinion, is another one of the funniest stories in the whole series. In many ways, he reminds me of the classic tales of the Genies, granting your wishes, but in ways where you just don't know what's going to happen.

Episode 195 - All-Star Party! We Are Immortal!

The final episode. I think saving this story for the end was a great choice. It was a fantastic way to close out the anime series (even if the story in the manga happened a whole lot earlier). How can you beat a party with the gods?


Well, there you go. My choices.
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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2008, 05:14:09 PM »
It wasn't necessary to tell us which ones you chose but that's fine. I just didn't want people to go into debate on episodes chosen like, for instance, they say that one or more of your choices are completely stupid.

Anyways, you DID use the poll vote, right? Like you selected the 10 episodes from the top voting thingy? It looks like u did cause the episodes are bolded.


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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2008, 05:36:26 PM »
Of course I did. And what's wrong with people discussing their choices? :P
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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2008, 05:58:14 PM »
I was told that this type of poll was done before, only with comments as answers, and that the debates went too far.


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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2008, 06:02:14 PM »
It happens sometimes.
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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2008, 12:23:36 PM »
I've voted for 10, 39, 41, 44, 66, 75, 89, 105, 117 and 195. There are a lot more that I love but I could only pick 10...

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« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2008, 05:55:28 PM »
again, just need clarification that you used the poll.

I just don't want to use the results from the poll at the end when there were a few people who put their votes in the comments instead of the poll.


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« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2008, 12:53:41 AM »
Yes, I did. I mentioned it in the beggining of the reply.

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« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2008, 01:01:56 AM »
K, thank you for ur vote ^_^
Posted on: March 18, 2008, 01:30:43 AM
Okay, excellent, there were 11 voters (that's A LOT compared to Veoh and Youtube who had like 3 each) meaning that there should have been a total of 110 votes cast.

From this site alone we have:

One vote each: Episodes 2, 7, 14, 21, 22, 23, 25, 28, 38, 53, 54, 60, 61, 64, 69, 72, 76, 77, 82, 84, 91, 99, 107, 124, 132/133, 144, 155, 160, 172, 180, 182, 184 (total 32 votes)

Two votes each: Episodes 27, 41, 42, 45, 101, 105/106, 143, 163, 178, 192 (total 20 votes)
Those episodes all tied for 10th place XD

Three votes each: Episodes 1, 66, 117 (total 9 votes)

Four votes each: Episodes 39, 75 (8 votes total)

Five votes each: Episodes 44, 89 (10 votes total)

Six votes: Episode 195 (6 votes total)

Seven votes: Episode 10 (7 votes total)

Now that only adds up to 92 votes out of possibly 110 and I don't think my math sucks that much... Actually I got over 90% math 12 so I don't think my math sucks at all... So I'll just assume some of you guys couldn't pick 10.

Or some of you guys cheated and used a second account to get in a couple of extra votes.

Anyways... according to the poll it would seem that episodes 1, 66, 117, 39, 75, 44, 89, 195, and 10 are the current best ones and these certainly look like good episodes.


However... keep in mind that Veoh and Youtube also voted. I think 3 from each site last time I checked and so that's 6 people so 60 votes still need to be added to these ones so it's still very much any body's game.



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« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2008, 04:37:53 AM »
Thanks for the heads up on this topic, UruseiNeo.  Pity I couldn't have voted, and not to sound too unoriginal, but sidzero's earlier post ( top of this page ) of listed favorite episodes sums up pretty well most of my favorites. 
I have to agree that it's a tough call trying to narrow down some 200ish episodes to just ten.  The number just seems too small for so great a series.   

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« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2008, 04:43:09 AM »
Are you saying you're gonna vote for the same ones as sidzero or are you wroking on ur own?


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« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2008, 12:01:02 AM »
I would vote for the same ones. 
Hardly original on my part but these are my favorites as well.

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« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2008, 12:41:41 AM »
Alright then, that's Ten more I can add to the overall votes.


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