Topic: Character Discussion and Defining

[UruseiNeo]

That wouldn't be sidetracking cause that would've been my next question... he could still be.

If that's the case then Lum could gain an edge on him  >

[sidzero]

Just checked. She said a 2-day ONE night trip.

My mistake.

Anyway... as far as the status of Ataru's virginity. Absolutely yes he's a virgin. Throughout the entire series. Though he's not 15 through the story, he's 17 (in my UYRemix he was going to start out as 15, because of the fact that I was going to take away the infinite time loop that UY takes place in and actually have proper progression of time through the story), and stays 17 from beginning to end. Anyway, there is no indication whatsoever (not even a change of behaviour and attitude that would suggest it) that Ataru and Lum have sex. I also think that Lum is a virgin as well. Otherwise it would have been a LOT easier for her to make him fall in love with her... all she'd have to do is seduce him, and she'd have him. But she doesn't, which indicates, to me at least, that she is as sexually inexperienced as he is, and still has some sort of stigma attached to sexual behavior.

[UruseiNeo]

He turns 17 during the episode "Happy Birthday My Darling" and before that episode is the episode where the have Lum's one year on earth celebration so by calculations he should be 15 at the BEGINNING of the series. Jeez... didn't even take HALF the series for him to age 2 years by that assumption...

all she'd have to do is seduce him, and she'd have him. But she doesn't, which indicates, to me at least, that she is as sexually inexperienced as he is, and still has some sort of stigma attached to sexual behavior.

Didn't she try once in episode 3, where Rei arrives? And I'm pretty sure the Manga version she took more than just the bra off...

[sidzero]

Logically speaking he SHOULD be 15 when the series starts, but he's 17. The series takes place in an infinite time loop. That's why regardless of how old he should be, how many winters, summers, setsubuns, birthdays, whatevers happen, he's always in class 2-4... which in Japanese schools, is equivalent to our junior years of high school (year 2, class group 4), which, under normal circumstances, is generally ages 16-18 (most people have their 17th birthdays during this year).

She tried, but she also thought they were already married at the time. It may have also been a desperation attempt at trying to "get" Ataru, stealing him away from Shinobu. And no, in the manga version, her bra coming off is as naked as she ever gets.

[UruseiNeo]

And no, in the manga version, her bra coming off is as naked as she ever gets.

http://www.onemanga.com/Urusei_Yatsura/6/05/
Take a good look at that first box. She's putting her boot back on.

[sidzero]

I wasn't thinking about her boots. Those come off other times, as well.

[UruseiNeo]

but it implies she took the rest off cause if she took off the bra and the boots... seems only logical...

Again... only implies...

[sidzero]

True. It's possible she was full nude under that blanket. But the lack of evidence (IE: you don't see her boots or her bottom laying around in the background anywhere in that scene) can't prove it one way or another. Either way, like I said, it was probably a desperation attempt to steal his attention away from Shinobu (obviously an unsuccessful one), at a time when he wasn't attracted to her at all (other than the base initial physical attraction).

[UruseiNeo]

Okay so we've established that they are both virgins which, to some authors, can be taken advantage of. I don't think we need to go any deeper in this matter so lets move on to something else.

 I currently can't think of anything so sidzero, why don't you start an Ataru topic for us?

[sidzero]

That's a hard one... what is there to be said that hasn't been said?

[UruseiNeo]

How about his view on the women of UY? I just wanna cover everything, I know some of these topics seem obvious.

[sidzero]

What about his view on them?

[UruseiNeo]

First thing that popped into my head...

Does he really want to have relationships with these other women?

[DarkDevil]

He wants to have with all at the same time. He wants them just for him, and nothing else.

[sidzero]

Of course. He wants them all. The reason he even dreams about his harem is so that he can have them all, and not have to choose one over the other. Of course, Lum is his "number one girl" by the end of the story, but he hasn't given up on the idea completely either. Though if forced to choose, he'd abandon all the other women for Lum (see: the Inaba story arc).