Author Topic: Ataru's Happiness (Read 8393 times)

UruseiNeo · « **on:** March 24, 2008, 12:36:01 AM »

This has been bugging me for a while, trying to think of something.

Is there anything that Lum could say, do, or anything that would make Ataru REALLY happy?

Obviously... harem, girl-hunt, etc are out and also letting go of marriage for now.

It's really hard... and I could use some help please.

UataruY · « **Reply #1 on:** July 17, 2008, 07:37:06 PM »

the only way that ataru can be really happy is when he's about to lose lum and gets her back, like that episode when lum was shrunked by that bottle and ataru and ten rushed to get the big bottle to return her to her original size or the first movie "only you"

but you can't really say that it was lum's doing that caused that happiness so that's actualy a answerless problem :?

janus · « **Reply #2 on:** July 17, 2008, 09:38:20 PM »

I think that Lum and Ataru had been always happy being together in their schooldays. Although Lum would be happier if both of them being were married, she is satisfied on what she has. As for Ataru, he desn't quite show it.

GiovaneDinamitardo · « **Reply #3 on:** July 20, 2008, 08:31:30 AM »

Happyness for Ataru and Lamù?

I think that he'd have to make her a great injustice and then, moved by his remorces, he'd have to rescue her in any way.

It have happened several times in the saga (for exemple on the episodes "a breathtaking christmas" or "the magic bottle").

This is also a well improved way used by R.T. to manage her main characters: it have happened a similar thing also between Ranma and Akane (specially in the latest episodes of their saga) and also between Inuyasha and Kagome.

I think that this situation is the "trademark" of R.T.

UataruY · « **Reply #4 on:** July 27, 2008, 10:14:49 AM »

yes but i think that she should change her style a little because most of the episodes that you see ataru's love for lum it's always the same plot, ataru acts like a jerk, lum cries, ataru regrets and goes back to her

gatulon · « **Reply #5 on:** July 27, 2008, 12:21:54 PM »

But I think that we've to consider also this one: all the character of Rumiko Takahashi seem to be happy just when they've a strife !!!

Ataru vs Lamù.

Ranma vs Akane.

Inuyasha vs Kagome.

Is true: the story is rather the same.

ARE THE VARIABLES THAT MAKE THEM IMPREVEDIBLES

UataruY · « **Reply #6 on:** July 27, 2008, 12:38:39 PM »

yes but it's a shame that rumiko takahashi doesn't give a real ending to the story, i think that she could very well do a 10th season with ataru proposing to lum, the wedding preparations, then ataru would get cold-feet but then he would realize that he loves lum, and the final episode with the actual wedding. and maybe a few episodes about their after-married life but being the way she is we can never expect that from rumiko

GiovaneDinamitardo · « **Reply #7 on:** July 27, 2008, 12:54:11 PM »

Mmmmmmh

RT adore to leave all her histories unsolved (with the exception of Maison Ikkoku).

So, don't expect any "happy end" on his tales.

I'm trying to write the "10th unofficial season" of UY (you know, I'm delirious

) but (if my incoming daugher will me allow to write it) the final will be....... "strange".

Yes, I think that her only way out is to end a tale giving a lots of answers that carry on them also a lots of other questions.

That's the fashion of UY: IS A LIVING WORLD !!!

UataruY · « **Reply #8 on:** July 27, 2008, 12:59:22 PM »

yes i have read a little of your season, it's really good everyone says so, i haven't read all of it because i still have to see the OVA's to finish all the official seasons, movies and OVA's xD

Kroptik · « **Reply #9 on:** July 28, 2008, 12:55:53 AM »

It may be a good thing that she "doesn't finish" her stories, because that means a lot of fanfics and a lot of different endings.

gatulon · « **Reply #10 on:** August 04, 2008, 12:18:22 AM »

True

oni · « **Reply #11 on:** September 16, 2008, 01:28:32 AM »

Its true that there coud be alot of fanfigs for UY, but the show has become old most people dont even know UY, and dont care. Its a series that is dieng into upscurety. I think that RT owes UY a proper ending or at least a spind of. To give the show a second wind. Because to be honest no mater how many fanfighs i read no mater how good they are they cant fild the boid left by UY unfinis ending.

dak · « **Reply #12 on:** September 16, 2008, 05:07:00 AM »

Of course they can't because UY we read was written by R.T.
I didn't mean to discourage fanfic writter( sorry if i did)

oni · « **Reply #13 on:** September 16, 2008, 05:36:06 AM »

We can only hope that the new episode comig out for UY will either finish the series properly ,or better yet bring new interest for it. If not i will have to setle for some cheap spid of of the series wen i am a old man. Because i bet that the only reason the haven yet don so is because RT refuses it.

dak · « **Reply #14 on:** September 16, 2008, 05:44:37 AM »

It hard to read your write but i think R.T will just bring new events to UY not its end.
Maybe she likes an open end.

oni · « **Reply #15 on:** September 16, 2008, 05:56:04 AM »

<sorry i know. I am a terible writer.> Well i like and read most of RT works. She gave most of her works a proper ending ,or at least kind of open ending that tells the reather was going to happen in the future. But in UY she just ends it giving the inpresion that the story contius ,but she is not going to write animore.

dak · « **Reply #16 on:** September 16, 2008, 06:44:09 AM »

sorry that i have discourage you, i really didn't mean it. I have written a story too( unfinished of course)
As you said i may have misunderstood UY last chapter sorry

Ataru+Lum · « **Reply #17 on:** January 09, 2011, 05:13:20 AM »

Quote from: UataruY on July 27, 2008, 12:38:39 PM

yes but it's a shame that rumiko takahashi doesn't give a real ending to the story, i think that she could very well do a 10th season with ataru proposing to lum, the wedding preparations, then ataru would get cold-feet but then he would realize that he loves lum, and the final episode with the actual wedding. and maybe a few episodes about their after-married life but being the way she is we can never expect that from rumiko

Rumiko showed her angry that one-chapter character Lum turned to be major character and her originally-planned major character Shinobu turned to be a supporting character because of readers' claim.

cata · « **Reply #18 on:** January 10, 2011, 10:34:10 AM »

Since I love UY as it is, I love that she "listened" to the fans. But on the other hand, it amazes me that an artist does whatever his fans want (in a bad way).

raikuni · « **Reply #19 on:** January 10, 2011, 12:34:40 PM »

Actually, I think that Urusei yatsura with Lum not being the main female character would have been so booooring...
if Lum had only been a temporary villian and Shinobu had been the love interest, as Takahashi wanted, I doubt UY would have been the hit it is today!
She should be glad she decided to listen to those fans too!

Kroptik · « **Reply #20 on:** January 11, 2011, 03:23:07 AM »

Quote from: raikuni on January 10, 2011, 12:34:40 PM

Actually, I think that Urusei yatsura with Lum not being the main female character would have been so booooring...
if Lum had only been a temporary villian and Shinobu had been the love interest, as Takahashi wanted, I doubt UY would have been the hit it is today!
She should be glad she decided to listen to those fans too!

You never know that, for all we know, if she had intended to make shinobu the main character, she already had a defined path to lead the manga. Suddenly chaninging characters would make a worse story, more rushed considering mangaka's tight deadlines.

On the other hand, if she changed her original idea that easily, then she either didn't have much story thought out, or she wasn't pleased with it...

cata · « **Reply #21 on:** January 11, 2011, 10:48:30 AM »

Heck, everyone needs money these days. And it has been 30 years (?) since she wrote UY so maybe she really needed to make a name for herself. As soon as she saw that Lum was a big hit, BOOM. Let's change this up.

veehive · « **Reply #22 on:** January 11, 2011, 01:12:20 PM »

Rumiko has always been very dependent on her editors.

raikuni · « **Reply #23 on:** January 11, 2011, 01:18:49 PM »

Give people what they want! Lum in plenty! XDXD

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You never know that

I don't know about the others, but I know about ME! I surely wouldn't have been such a huge fan of UY without Lum as a main character.

That's the reason because I say she should be glad she decided to listen to those fans: She created a legendary series, she pleased her fans and made big money over it in one shot! Jackpot!

cata · « **Reply #24 on:** January 12, 2011, 10:36:28 AM »

Raikuni:

Personally, if I was Rumiko, I wouldn't listen to fans. I write raps (I'm no gangsta xD) and some people don't like it. They say I'm going too far and yada yada yada. I don't care. It's my stuff. My art. So, if manga is her art I would be pleased to know that she just ignored fans regarding that matter.

Just to clarify:

I don't approve Rumiko's opinions and way of doing things.
I love UY as she decided to make BUT there are also a few things I would change but that doesn't mean I don't consider UY as one of the best Anime's of all time.

raikuni · « **Reply #25 on:** January 12, 2011, 02:29:30 PM »

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So, if manga is her art I would be pleased to know that she just ignored fans regarding that matter.

Fair enough. Actually I must say I don't like authors that are willing to modify their works to make more money! I tend to respect people who keep doing what they believe in despite the others' opinion.
Still, Urusei yatsura was Rumiko's first manga and she had to choose if leaving it as it was and risking people didn't take interest in it, or listening to her fans and taking the easy way!

Thanks to the success Urusei yatsura gained, she became a famous mangaka and had the chance to create many other works she has (as far as I know) never modified due to her fans whims.

Plus, since she modified UY so easily, maybe she wasn't so sure about her first manga and took her fans' wish as an advise to take the right way.

I don't like Rumiko Takahashi. I don't like any other of her works aside Urusei yatsura (except maybe Ranma), so I am not irrationally defending her, I'm just saying what I think.

Though, I admit I'm cutting her a lot of slack since her lack of respect toward her initial work helped to create my favourite anime series ever!

cata · « **Reply #26 on:** January 13, 2011, 10:37:51 AM »

But that's the thing I hate: "I'll just kiss everyone's butts until I've made a name for myself and once it happens, I'll just spit on everyone's face".

I don't know, maybe I'm being immature and stupid. xD

raikuni · « **Reply #27 on:** January 13, 2011, 11:07:41 AM »

On the conrary, you are strong! Alas, the world is weak...

cata · « **Reply #28 on:** January 14, 2011, 11:26:39 AM »

Thanks xD

SonicxReiHino · « **Reply #29 on:** January 22, 2011, 07:58:35 PM »

Quote from: UataruY on July 27, 2008, 10:14:49 AM

yes but i think that she should change her style a little because most of the episodes that you see ataru's love for lum it's always the same plot, ataru acts like a jerk, lum cries, ataru regrets and goes back to her

That is so true. That's why I had wanted to start a a topic that talked about how ataru and lum connect. Because to me, its like they don't unless Lum leaves like you said. The way I tried looking at their relationship was like: From it a girl can learn how to stay faithful to her man through thick and thin, because of how Lum always stays even if Ataru flirts with someone in front of her. But idk. I guess them being together is supposed to be a symbol for a moral.

cata · « **Reply #30 on:** January 23, 2011, 05:26:23 PM »

Hum... they connect in their own way. I know what you mean and I agree with you but we cannot forget about the times where Ataru stands up for his role as Lum's boyfriend, even when everyone's there. Of course that he always makes up excuses for it. On the other hand, Lum is not an idiot. She's not staying with Ataru because she loves him or because she's supposed to be with him. Lum sticks to Ataru because she KNOWS he feels the same way about her.

raikuni · « **Reply #31 on:** January 24, 2011, 12:54:42 PM »

Fully agree with Cata!

SonicxReiHino · « **Reply #32 on:** January 26, 2011, 10:36:40 PM »

Huh... ^^; I didn't think of it that way. So that is why she's staying. That makes more sense then what I said. lol Guess I don't have enough knowledge about the show lol but I try to pull out the morals from anything I watch. I guess that's why the comment I said about a girl being faithful slipped in. Maybe you're right about why Lum is still with him. Thanks for the info. ^^

cata · « **Reply #33 on:** January 27, 2011, 11:11:31 AM »

Oh no, please don't be like that! This is just my opinion and we don't know if RT, the original creator, supports it so everyone is free to come up with their own opinions and prespectives. If you think that your opinion makes more sense, then stick with it. Even if you're new to a series, it doesn't mean that your opinions don't have any value or make any sense. Share them!

Besides, this is a Forum which means that this is meant to be a discussion, so feel free to discuss! :D

SonicxReiHino · « **Reply #34 on:** March 08, 2011, 07:53:28 AM »

Thanks ^^ You're right.

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