Author Topic: All in a "L" (Read 5476 times)

kyo · « **on:** March 15, 2008, 06:19:51 PM »

there one thing I love to know is... How in the heck can The japanese say lum name ? there no L in the Japanese vocabulary ! how can they say love, like, look do anyone know how they do it ?

sidzero · « **Reply #1 on:** March 15, 2008, 06:29:26 PM »

It's pronounced "Lamu" which sounds exactly the same as "Ramu". In japanese, the L and the R are a single soundform that sounds kinda like a combination of the two English letter sounds. Also, U's are often pronounced silently in Japanese. Go watch the anime, and I'm sure you'll hear it a few times.

UruseiNeo · « **Reply #2 on:** March 15, 2008, 06:46:04 PM »

I like Lamu way more than Ramu. And I like Lum 100% more than either of those.

I heard that the name Lum, while also coming from that supermodel or something, also sorta came from Rumiko herself as her nickname was Rum. So... yeah, another r/l single soundform

Forgotten_Lum · « **Reply #3 on:** March 15, 2008, 10:04:07 PM »

As for love, like and look, its just a different word, when watching anime listen to the words whenyou seen the subs, usually when someone says they love or like someone or something they have the word "suki" in there sentence, although the word doesn't translate into love, but more a importance in the sentence. The word most commonly translated to love is "daisuki" (i dont know the spelling so i took a guess)

Jataru · « **Reply #4 on:** March 15, 2008, 11:04:50 PM »

It's a commun error switch the "L" for the "R" in japanese.
If you look some episodes you will ear sometimes the name of Lum said with the "R" and others with the "L". And the word "love" in corrent japanese is "daisuki".

sidzero · « **Reply #5 on:** March 16, 2008, 10:46:06 AM »

And just because I feel like pitching in something utterly inane... I just want to point out that "daisuki" literally means "big like". How's that for pointing out the pointless?

UruseiNeo · « **Reply #6 on:** March 16, 2008, 05:07:35 PM »

I thought that ai meant love or something like that.

GiovaneDinamitardo · « **Reply #7 on:** March 16, 2008, 05:22:30 PM »

Quote from: sidzero on March 15, 2008, 06:29:26 PM

It's pronounced "Lamu" which sounds exactly the same as "Ramu".

In the episode "the electric jungle" Lamù hold a bag with the written "Run": it's another way to translate "Lum", who is prononced "Lam-ù".

The "ù" is a personal adding, in japanese accents doesn't exist.

Some times ago I've met two japanese girls: they saied to me that "italian don't simply speak: THEY'RE SINGING INSTEAD OF SPEAKING", due tu our words full of accents.

sidzero · « **Reply #8 on:** March 16, 2008, 05:47:49 PM »

Aye, Italian isn't the only language like that, either. That, I think is one of the things I like about the Japanese language though, the fact that there is no real variance in pronunciations. No two letters have more than one pronunciation... unlike such letters as C, X, Q, T (adding an H after it changes the sound into one of two different ways of pronouncing the combination, for example), or any vowel. Learning to read Japanese should be pretty easy once you get past the hurdle of learning 4 completely different alphabets (including Kanji with it's ungodly amount of characters, though you really only need know around 3000 to be functionally literate).

janus · « **Reply #9 on:** March 17, 2008, 05:16:04 AM »

Just to clarify on things here

Quote from: Tomobiki-cho

It has also been noted in articles about Miss Takahashi that while growing up, she'd often shorten her name and write it down as "Rum" or "Lum" due to the interchangeability of the letters "R" and "L" to the Japanese ear. It's true that Takahashi views Lum as her less inhibited alter-ego. So in a way the character of Lum is also based somewhat on Rumiko Takahashi herself.

UruseiNeo · « **Reply #10 on:** March 17, 2008, 05:18:10 AM »

I said that! ^_^

cata · « **Reply #11 on:** March 17, 2008, 11:49:44 AM »

It sounds so much better "Lum/Lamu" than "Ram/Ramu".

Kroptik · « **Reply #12 on:** March 21, 2008, 01:04:33 AM »

And to add some info, Lum's name (and body) is based on the Japanese model Agnes Lum.

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At that time, she was nicknamed "Lum-chan" in Japan, though now that nickname can be confused with that of the fictional character Lum Invader from Urusei Yatsura.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnes_Lum

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Her name comes from popular swimsuit model Agnes Lum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lum_Invader

kyo · « **Reply #13 on:** March 21, 2008, 01:54:24 AM »

oh Kroptik I already Knew that info but thanks anyway

cata · « **Reply #14 on:** March 22, 2008, 02:41:35 AM »

The info that Kroptik has provided may be useful to other UY fans.

kyo · « **Reply #15 on:** March 24, 2008, 01:33:37 PM »

Quote from: cata on March 22, 2008, 02:41:35 AM

The info that Kroptik has provided may be useful to other UY fans.

whoops sorry not trying to be selfish. Hope I didn't offend you kroptik.

Kroptik · « **Reply #16 on:** March 26, 2008, 12:53:35 AM »

Not at all. xD

I just said that because of the way a lot of people were discussing the Lum/Lamu/Ramu thing.
Lum is her original name. And I believe "Lamu" appeared with the italian dubbing, though about that I'm not too sure...

UruseiNeo · « **Reply #17 on:** March 26, 2008, 12:59:53 AM »

I have never actually seen anyone use the Ramu/Rum format of the name in any dub.

Kroptik · « **Reply #18 on:** March 26, 2008, 01:10:50 AM »

Me either, I just said it because it was mentioned here.

cata · « **Reply #19 on:** March 31, 2008, 11:32:28 PM »

There's a pic in the Gallery (I guess it is there) that Lum is wearing a yellow appron and it is written "LUM". This could be the proof.

UruseiNeo · « **Reply #20 on:** April 01, 2008, 12:36:28 AM »

Yeah, that was from the yoga episode and that ultimately proves that the official spelling and pronunciation is "Lum"

cata · « **Reply #21 on:** April 12, 2008, 12:41:36 AM »

Lum vs Rum ----Â» Lum wins =D

sidzero · « **Reply #22 on:** April 12, 2008, 09:06:31 AM »

I'd think Rum would win. After all, pirates love Rum.

Kroptik · « **Reply #23 on:** April 15, 2008, 10:37:44 AM »

Nah, Ataru isn't a pirate, nor any other guy in his class. xD

I've never even heard of calling her Rum. ???

Surudoi · « **Reply #24 on:** April 15, 2008, 03:37:50 PM »

i cant remember what ep it was in but there was about three lines said in English by mendou and he said "Rum"

UruseiNeo · « **Reply #25 on:** April 15, 2008, 03:43:18 PM »

The episode with Megane's movie?

Surudoi · « **Reply #26 on:** April 15, 2008, 04:03:51 PM »

yeah thats the one,

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