The World of Urusei Yatsura's Lum
Urusei Yatsura - General => Urusei Yatsura General Discussion => Topic started by: Necron 99 on September 26, 2007, 12:10:34 AM
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Is it just me, or did the appearances of the characters om the anime become progressively worse and cruder as the series progressed? By the end of the series, there is not even the slightest hint of Akemi Takada's character designs on the series. By stark contrast, the second Lupin III series lasted for 155 episodes, and to my knowledge, only two episodes looked different from the rest (this was only because Hayao Miyazaki was the animation director for said episodes). Nearly all the animation directors of Ranma 1/2 at least tried to remain faithful to Atsuko Nakajima's character designs. On the other hand, only 2 animation directors (Akemi Takada and Asami Endo) actually remained faithful to the character designs for Urusei Yatsura. Some of the later UY episodes, despite being entertaining, were very crudely drawn. Everytime the characters get angry or sad, anime cliches are always used. For example, the characters' eyes are always bulging if they're angry, or their mouths are huge and water is gushing from their eyes when they're crying. It's as if the show's crew no longer cared about the quality of the animation; they seemed to be more concerned with style over substance. :-\
So, I guess the real question is: what was the purpose of having multiple animation directors when there are numerous anime shows as long as or longer than UY that look consistently the same from beginning to end?
P.S.
I'm not saying that the crudely animated episodes are bad. I'm just saying that the crude looks of the characters late in the series are distracting at times.
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I thought you knew Necron :?http://www.furinkan.com/features/articles/director1.html (http://www.furinkan.com/features/articles/director1.html)
I think that the best animation drawn was the 5th movie and two ovas
but yes I think sometimes they drew the characters in a "Lazy" way for instance in episode 194 (the pre-ending) the characters were drawn horribly in my opinion,
up to this point, UY has had the most dramatical changes that I've seen
in the 6th movie was the part where the style changed again for obvious reasons
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I was aware there were multiple animation directors. I'm just curious as to why they needed so many, and why they gradually drifted away from the original character designs.
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those were the 80s,necron99,most animes suffered from dat director problem anyways
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Probably the Anime company was a bit low on cash... and so they keept getting cheaper Directors... that did a very bad job... ??? :-\
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one word...money... all humans are after money, sign a contract for so long then move onto the next thing, also time is money, cliches are used because they are less time consuming
Posted on: September 26, 2007, 11:42:05 AM
falling u beat me by a few seconds :(
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True, money is an issue, that's why kitty crashed
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Really?
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True, money is an issue, that's why kitty crashed
No wonder da Inuyasha anime was made by Sunrise
one word...money... all humans are after money, sign a contract for so long then move onto the next thing, also time is money, cliches are used because they are less time consuming
Posted on: September 26, 2007, 11:42:05 AM
falling u beat me by a few seconds :(
Aye,inda end directors have to decide between a good work effort or money,we all know who wins most of da time
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Money... The eternal solution and eternal issue. :-\
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Because of the money there were many directors coming and going.
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Yep,but most of da time UY anime art was very good
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indeed
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Anyways, UY is an addicting anime and most people fall in love with it.
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indeed
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If you go to Japan and talk with some persons above the 30 years old and ask who was Moroboshi Ataru and Lum he will answer of course about Urusei Yatsura. In the past years we saw many remakes about the animes of the 70's and 80's like Lupin III in a special episode celebreting his 40 years old, Doraemon a new serie, Gundan, and of course the most knowed football player in anime Tsubasa wich contradicts the saying "Left the old one and that the new enters " but the people are adoring this good old animes. Can Urusei Yatsura be next?
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What do you mean with "Can Urusei Yatsura be next?"
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It is now, it will be always the next one, after itself!
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What do you mean with "Can Urusei Yatsura be next?"
I meaning "Can Urusei Yatsura be next?" because of the many remakes that were made in the past years for other animes we might expect an Urusei Yatsura remake.
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Lets hope we get to see one more UY,it would help boost Rumiko popularity and make future otakus 2 like UY
It would be great if it had the Movie 5/OVAs art design
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indeed.
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But the Ironic thing is that in that time UY was very popular, so they should of had some deep pockets to hire good directors
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Indeed, but because of some disagreements good directors were also leaving.
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Maybe, we can do something about it in the future.
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Only time will tell.
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And strenght of will.
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And I guess money too... :&
Time is money... and the better the paycheck the stronger the will to continue or start something... That's how XXI Century Japan works...
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Lets hope we get to see one more UY,it would help boost Rumiko popularity and make future otakus 2 like UY
It would be great if it had the Movie 5/OVAs art design
I long for the days of the Akemi Takada/Asami Endo designs. They were the only ones that really captured Lum's beauty and innocence. They also had an old school charm about them. They were very appealing and weren't overly stylized. Just goes to show that anime does not have to be crudely drawn in order to be good.
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa96/GeneralOlde/Lum-210.jpg?t=1190951976)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa96/GeneralOlde/Lum-509-1.jpg?t=1190941232)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa96/GeneralOlde/Lum-510-1.jpg?t=1190951829)
As much as I'd like to see a new UY series that is more faithful to the designs of Akemi Takada and Asami Endo, I'm not that optimistic. After watching an episode of Inuyasha, I feel that "style over substance" has taken over. It would be great to see Lum shine again, but the future of UY looks rather bleak at the moment. :(
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And I guess money too... :&
Time is money... and the better the paycheck the stronger the will to continue or start something... That's how XXI Century Japan works...
Japan or the whole world?? :-\
Posted on: Friday 28-September-2007, 14:47:18
And I know what you mean Necron, but don't dispair yet. There are some pretty well drawn animes out there. ;D
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Very true
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As long as there are people that care to do a good job,the saga will live on
Btw,necron,kawai pictures,i liked how lum looks so pretty with her big eyes in pic 2
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very true
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We must never lost hope but we have to fight for our believes, opportunities and aims.
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indeed
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For a moment there I tough you where going to say "Very true" again Dark... :-\ ;D
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As long as there are people that care to do a good job,the saga will live on
Btw,necron,kawai pictures,i liked how lum looks so pretty with her big eyes in pic 2
She does look very adorable and cuddly in pic 2. She's so cute when she's confused or clueless. :D)
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For a moment there I tough you where going to say "Very true" again Dark... :-\ ;D
Very true.
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Dark your vocabulary is the lowest of all (in this Forum).
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At least he didn't say "indeed".
Give him some more time to improve. :P
And when UY gets back, I think it should start with a movie before the regular episodes. Just showing what changed during the time lapse (there could be one for the new series...)
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And when UY gets back, I think it should start with a movie before the regular episodes. Just showing what changed during the time lapse (there could be one for the new series...)
It's better start with the episodes to expain what UY basicaly is, before the movies.
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It would be better of to research, before jumping into conclusions. there exists some possibility for a UY comeback
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That's why.
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And when UY gets back, I think it should start with a movie before the regular episodes. Just showing what changed during the time lapse (there could be one for the new series...)
It's better start with the episodes to expain what UY basicaly is, before the movies.
Indeed let's start with the episodes, because what I'm seeing is that they will make a movie in 2011 to celebrate the 30's years of Urusei Yatsura.
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What will be the theme of such movie?
It would be nice something that fills the plotholes da series made plus an original tale
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indeed
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indeed
Say other thing !!!
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"other thing !!!"
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Poor Dark... He thinks he's funny.
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Poor Dark... He thinks he's funny.
It is not that he thinks he is funny,da problem is that his vocabulary is still an early rate,miss cata
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Dark's vocabulary is so small.
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Probably you're right.
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Hey... give him a break... Its hard to get books in Hell... the ones that get there... dont last too much... LoL
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The only book that Dark might readed could be like this:
"1001 Ways to say Indeed"
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"other thing !!!"
I've said what he wanted me say.
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So if he wanted you to disappear for a long long time from the Forum, you would do it, right?
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He is still a needed force in this forum,like light and darkness
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I'm not saying the he should leave.
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So what you're saying cata?
That he can do some rest of the forum for a couple of days?
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Never The End
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I tought that you wanted the same thing he requested, Miss Cata.
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I meant that if Dark does whatever we ask for then he should stop the "indeed" thing, for example.
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I'll try.
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I'm not sure if you are able to do it.
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Me neither.
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Just give your best.
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I'll try.
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Don't try. Just do it.
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I know.
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Then why did you said "I'll try."?
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I knew that you would say that.
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It is quite obvious. Are you going to answer me?
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Then why did you said "I'll try."?
At this question.
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Yes.
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Nothing can be, nor reach 0%, or 100%
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100% is almost impossible and 0% is very easy to reach.
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This is getting confusing. ??? ???
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Lol. To me, it isn't.
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Changing the conversation topic completely.... >_>
100% is almost impossible and 0% is very easy to reach.
Not true. Remember 0% is the opposite of 100%.
100% of something is as hard as 0% of its opposite...
Discuss. :P
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Changing the conversation topic completely.... >_>
100% is almost impossible and 0% is very easy to reach.
Not true. Remember 0% is the opposite of 100%.
100% of something is as hard as 0% of its opposite...
Discuss. :P
You are really changing the conversation Kroptik.
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What are you talking about???
This forum is getting weirder and weirder... and I'm not talking about UY weird... but weirdly weird... If that makes any sense... ;D ;D :-\
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We were finally able to surpass UY's weirdness.
Cheers for us. ;D :B :B ;D
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Not true. Remember 0% is the opposite of 100%.
100% of something is as hard as 0% of its opposite...
That is why I say it is impossible to reach o and 1.
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For example:
How to get 0% in a writting test: don't answer to any question (Very easy).
How to get 100% in a writting test: Study hard, very very hard. Or cheat. Or find the solutions. Or do all of these choices. (Hard I think.
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but if you don't know anything and pick answers just at common knowledge, you might get a 50% at least
BTW, we've gone waaay off topic here
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Yep,it seems we already told what we thought regarding the bad art on some UY moments
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For example:
How to get 0% in a writting test: don't answer to any question (Very easy).
How to get 100% in a writting test: Study hard, very very hard. Or cheat. Or find the solutions. Or do all of these choices. (Hard I think.
Oh! So people are perfect? I didn't know that. So why do they behave so stupidly unperfect?!
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For example:
How to get 0% in a writting test: don't answer to any question (Very easy).
How to get 100% in a writting test: Study hard, very very hard. Or cheat. Or find the solutions. Or do all of these choices. (Hard I think.
Oh! So people are perfect? I didn't know that. So why do they behave so stupidly unperfect?!
I didn't say that ppl are perfect!
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So, if someone reach 100% in the test, will it grant that person perfection?
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No! It will only mean that he is a Master in cheating or it will mean that he is really good at that subject.
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So, that doesn't mean he reached 100%, doe it?
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DarkDevil, Here's what I said:
If someone reach 100% in the test it will only mean that he is a Master in cheating or it will mean that he is really good at that subject.
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But everything is related to everything, isn't it? Even though it may be in another time and space, location.
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I'm sorry but I'm very dumb and I didn't understand how your reply relates with mine.
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Everything is related, Miss Cata, even though you don't understand me.
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You don't have an answer for me, then.
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Answer you what, Miss Cata?
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Answer this:
I didn't understand how your reply relates with mine.
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You must know the rest to know what you've put in the test, in wish is related to many thingh.
In other words, they ask you about something, but that something is realted to three other things, and those things are related to others and so on and so on. Imagine it as a spider web, and the thing they've asked was just a cross of tow threads. To know about that little point, you must know the entire web.
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I understood what you said but what does that have to do with my point of view? I only said that it's easy to reach 0% and very hard to reach 100%.
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Because, you're watching just that little thing, while you've got to view the whole complex and every point in it.
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Ok. What do I need to view?
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Everythingand knowing it, which is impossible.
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If you can do it, I can do it, too.
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Ok, try to watch your beloved (not my brother) one die because of you, and hating yourself because of that loss, and hating so much everything and everyone that you want revenge. So that your body dies by the little time of life you've got by walking around, until you can't leave this planet, nor your personality. You remember everything you've passed in other lifes, that repeats over and over again, until everything looks the same. You won't know where to turn, you don't know what to do, because you've done it all. You may try to replace, or change your memorys, but you'll still feel them, torturing you, and your new body, like if it was all of your old ones.
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If my beloved one died because of me, I would kill myself. (I'm not joking)
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I've just walk searching for the responsible for it, or at least blame someone else for her death, while by body rotten all the way to find him.
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I sense a great seek for revenge in you Dark.
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I sence Dark is emo... >_>
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What is emo...?
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Maybe emotionable.
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Aren't EMO people gay??? I know some are...
EmO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28slang%29)
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I'll go with Jataru's choice.
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EMO people aren't gay people. Some may be but EMO doesn't mean GAY.
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indeed
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"Indeed" again... Dark can't change, I guess.
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No one does.
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I don't agree but it's ok.
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Offtopic: I just left for some days and everything goes upside down in here
I've just walk searching for the responsible for it, or at least blame someone else for her death, while by body rotten all the way to find him.
Darkdevil,i have a question,if yer body began to rot,how come it is in cat form?
Back to topic (if possible) i was checking episode 178 and noted that when Lum kisses Pigmo and da magical aura appears and one gets to see some students amazed,you can spot that shinobu wasnt drawn well as she has her eyes in weird positions (i shall post da pic later on)
Anyways,UY art style is perhaps one of the best we have ever seen and it is normal it has minor flaws,most things do (dont answer this with "indeed" or ya shall suffer the Heaven Retribution :P)
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I know how that feels! Anyways I was checking the episode and you're right! One eye is half-open and the other is open. Another wierd moment in this weird Anime!
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Picture please. I don't have that episode...
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Maybe she wasn't certain what was happening.
Darkdevil,i have a question,if yer body began to rot,how come it is in cat form?
My body was so rotten there was no body, I was just a soul. A soul remembering all the passed lifes with same moments. After the war was over and Hitler dead, I've returned to what was once, where she died. When I've returned there was no body, nor her, nor mine. She was buried near. I stayed there. It made blazing heat and frozen cold, during days, months and I'm not sure years. I've decided to change but it was difficult, besides, people were starting to invade my lost land. So I've changed in to a cat! but thinking about it I don't remember how. Never mind.
Offtopic: Just forget about my pass. Now what we want are the flaws in the UY series.
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Poetic.
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Return to the topic, if you don't mind, Miss Cata.
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I don't mind but I don't have anything else to say about it.
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This topic has been separated of is principal meaning.
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I know
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So what do we do now?
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... :/ :?
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That was what I thought...
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:w
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Lol.
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I know
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WE WANT PICS! WE WANT PICS! WE WANT PICS! WE WANT PICS! WE WANT PICS! WE WANT PICS! WE WANT PICS! WE WANT PICS! WE WANT PICS! WE WANT PICS! WE WANT PICS! WE WANT PICS! WE WANT PICS!
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ENOUGH! :(
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The kitty got pissed. ;D
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The kitty has clwas and bites like hell. :(
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That doesn't scare me at all. My cat, when he bites and scratches me, I don't feel pain at all. I'm serious. It's like, I got used to its claws and teeth.
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And, how about this one?
(http://www.fiocruz.br/biosseguranca/Bis/infantil/tigre.jpg)
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So cute! I don't know. That kind of kitty never put its paws on me.
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wait I know this one.....a tiger-striped tiger :9
why does everything with tiger-stripes has to be dangerous ???
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Not dangerous per se,janus,only mysteriously wild
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Well... Tigers are dangerous, expecially if you piss them off. xD
I once heard that you can't turn your backs on tigers, cos if you do they attack.
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And it's true.
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And it's true.
Have ya witnessed that or you discovered it as part of yer research,demon?
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I bet his cousins are all tigers... xD
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Tigers without claws and teeths of course. ;D
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And it's true.
Have ya witnessed that or you discovered it as part of yer research,demon?
Both... I think.
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That doesn't scare me at all. My cat, when he bites and scratches me, I don't feel pain at all. I'm serious. It's like, I got used to its claws and teeth.
you like tough love,dont you,cata?
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Shut up, you idiot.
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Was i speaking to you?
we should speak about the decline on your manners,darkdevil
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We were better off without you.
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That doesn't scare me at all. My cat, when he bites and scratches me, I don't feel pain at all. I'm serious. It's like, I got used to its claws and teeth.
you like tough love,dont you,cata?
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It's not a matter of loving or hating. But somehow, I always fall in love with the wrong person or in the wrong time. But that isn't important for this Forum. Besides, Alumxander, I don't mind if you talk to me in a "bad mood" or in an "agressive way" but don't talk like that to the other Forum's members or I'll punish you. Btw, thanks for "protecting" me, Dark.
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You're welcome, Miss Cata.