The World of Urusei Yatsura's Lum
Urusei Yatsura - General => Urusei Yatsura General Discussion => Topic started by: GiovaneDinamitardo on October 18, 2011, 09:04:20 AM
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Do you think that Lamù is a good schoolgirl?
For what we said RT, as a child was a real plague: refractory to discipline enough to launch missiles against teachers (she did it against CaO2 with Benten and Ran) or to place a bomb on their back (she did it against Cr-AB, in the manga, even with Benten and Ran), listless to do her homework (you can see it in the manga, in the episode "revenge of the convolvulus"), ready to fight all the time (it's learned in the first episode that talks about Ginger, Pepper and Sugar).
And when she grew up?
In all the episodes (both the anime and the manga) I've never seen her doing homework, but in the episode "that magnificent summer" Lum threats Ataru: "if you don't date me I won't help you anymore to do your homework ".
The only time we see her take a test at school is in crisis and, in fact, it's understandable: it's so difficult for anyone to translate the ancient Japanese in the modern, let alone an alien!
But the question remains: do you think that Lamù is a diligent schoolgirl or even in high school maintained her attitude impatient and lazy?
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I think she's intelligent but that doesn't really mean anything when it comes to school grades. You can skip classes and be smart or be dumb and get high grades (with help from classmates or something).
Behaviour in the classroom means even less when it comes to school grades.
I think she would get average grades in Tomobiki. In her planet, I think she would get bad grades in the first years but quickly improve her grades in middle school.
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I believe Lum already graduated high school on her home planet but goes to school with Ataru so she can be close to him. I think this was referenced in one of the earlier TV episodes.
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Sorry ?!? :o
Lamù already graduated high school on her home planet [...] hink this was referenced in one of the earlier TV episodes
Which one ?!?
I really missed it !! :o
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It was referenced way back in the first few episodes although I can't remember which one. Graduating at an early age is nothing new. in my wife's country most high school kids graduate at 16 years old. You'll have to watch those early eps again to find it as I don't have a Netflix subscription any more.
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Wait, wait: now I got !!
Lamù is graduated with the diploma took at MIDDLE SCHOOL, like the one of Kagome !!
She got it in her planet when was about 14, togheter with Ran, Benten and Oyuki: we know it 'cos', during a reunion, prof CR-AB ("Gran-Kyo" in italian) give them some photo: "I took them during the graduation ceremony", he said !! (this episode is one of the lasts of the manga).
This also means that Lamù still has no high school diploma !!
That's why she riskes serious rejection !!!
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I seriously doubt that a girl who can fly a spaceship, build giant robots, traverse alternate realities and has a middle school diploma which on earth would probaby qualify her for a minimum of a college degree is all that worried about human high school in Japan where they still grade on a Bell curve.
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I would be inclined to believe that extra-terrestrial beings would be educationally superior to us (as pointed out: they fly spaceships, so they MUST be smarter). My OPINION is that Lum is a bright girl who was BORED in her interstellar school (thus the pranks) and has graduated; she attends Earth high-school but is there ONLY to be close to Ataru; she merely goes through the motions in class 2-4 to play along while keeping close to Her Darling.
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You know the whole "being smart = good with computers" and such? I don't buy it. I wouldn't say Lum and the others are smarter because in their home planets they have more advanced technology. The aliens that MADE their gadgets are the ones who are intelligent, without a doubt. But the ones who only use their gadgets? I mean, I can work with a laptop but I didn't invented it so I can't build one even though I know how to use it. See what I mean? Just like you can build some table but have no idea how to get the right wood and such for the same table. Like, I can use a microwave oven but I know nothing about how microwave ovens are built and such.
I think I've made my point.
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The point is that Lamù IS able to assemblate a duplicating-gun, or a live-translater-mask, or a 3D projector and other devilries coming from her planet !!
Both anime and manga are full of episodes like that !!
Veehive is right: Lamù went to school just to be so close to her darling but anything cleared us about the fact that she's a good or bad schoolgirl.
... OR MAYBE I MISSED SOMETHING ONCE AGAIN ?!?
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Ataru can run non-stop for a pretty feminine face. Does this mean humans are physically better than aliens? No!
Ataru can flip girls' skirts using a yo-yo! C'mon, that's got to count for something! I mean, I never saw Lum do that so it must mean that Ataru is... huh... smarter?
I think the only conclusion we can get about UY, is that alien technology is way more advanced than human technology.
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Ataru can run non-stop for a pretty feminine face. Does this mean humans are physically better than aliens? No!
Ataru can flip girls' skirts using a yo-yo! C'mon, that's got to count for something! I mean, I never saw Lum do that so it must mean that Ataru is... huh... smarter?
I think the only conclusion we can get about UY, is that alien technology is way more advanced than human technology.
So you think that doesn't transfer over as to how smart they are in general then?
The tech Lum uses is very advanced and uses wormholes to transfer between two points in space.
I am willing to bet most of us here cannot assemble a giant robot and yes we have them it's true they are industrial robots but no one here could asemble one.
We also had spaceships (Space Shuttle) until they were mothballed but no one on this forum can pilot one.
Go back 400 years and see how many people could drive a car or operate a computer.
Lum is IMO smart enough to do what most humans can't do and she does it with ease. She has also fixed her own ship on occaision.
I think if a test were given to pass high school Lum would ace it. :)
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Alien high school, maybe...
Earth high school? Very unlikely.
There's even a chapter/episode where she is taking a test and having trouble even saying "they shouldn't expect aliens to know this" or something like that.
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Yeah, Mozzart, Einstein, Darwin, Da Vinci had a HUGE amount of intelligence. Guess what? Not a single one of us are close of that. Yet, we can use computers, get transplanted, go to the moon (for money), etc.
If you want to compare alien's IQ to a random Earth person, then you must be sure that their equal. What's the point of comparing Einstein's IQ with a random average person? Their not on the same class. If Lum could actually create something, then the conversation would be different but all she does is assemble mechanical parts, fire guns and pilot spaceships. We, random humans can build buildings, bridges, highways, assemble furniture, fire guns and drive cars.
In my perspective, Lum's IQ is average. There's not someone in UY who is the "smart kid". Not even Megane, the typical glasses nerdy guy.
So, you want to see who's smarter? Chose the most intelligent alien and chose the most intelligent human and then we'll see. Of course aliens would win BUT picking Lum won't work.
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we had already discussed in another thread: Ten, an asylum-age child, speaks fluently a foreign language tricky and difficult as the Japanese!
Oh, the mistery of the alien school !! ;)
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Yeah, Mozzart, Einstein, Darwin, Da Vinci had a HUGE amount of intelligence. Guess what? Not a single one of us are close of that. Yet, we can use computers, get transplanted, go to the moon (for money), etc.
If you want to compare alien's IQ to a random Earth person, then you must be sure that their equal. What's the point of comparing Einstein's IQ with a random average person? Their not on the same class. If Lum could actually create something, then the conversation would be different but all she does is assemble mechanical parts, fire guns and pilot spaceships. We, random humans can build buildings, bridges, highways, assemble furniture, fire guns and drive cars.
In my perspective, Lum's IQ is average. There's not someone in UY who is the "smart kid". Not even Megane, the typical glasses nerdy guy.
So, you want to see who's smarter? Chose the most intelligent alien and chose the most intelligent human and then we'll see. Of course aliens would win BUT picking Lum won't work.
Of course it works, if you exclude political correctness.
Lum is smarter at most things than any of the kids in Tomobiki high school. She is not a nerdy smart kid but she can do a lot more than the average kid in Tomobiki and that is who you compare to, her peers, not intellectual giants.
I coulduse your same arguement to prove that men and women aren't equal in sports for example. Take the very best man at whatever sport and the very best woman and let them go head to head in any Olympic sport, not in the mens class but on an equal field no adjusting for times due to gender and men will win every time. Why? Because athletically men have more muscles than women which is why the Olympics has a womens class and does not compete directly against men.
Lum is not being judged as the example for her entire race, just the kids she goes to her high school with.
If you did it your way then you would have to compare the best of the Oniboshi vs the best of Earth and it wouldn't even be close since we cannot even travel to Mars nevermind other solar systems and other dimensions.
This whole equality thing is another strawman arguement. I'm sure you'll be sending me another private email....
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Redacted, all you've talked about has been unrelated to "being smart"
The word you're looking for here is SKILL, the ability to do something.
Lum can build and pilot stuff because she has the SKILL to do so, not because she is smart >.>
Is a person who can drive a car definitely smarter than someone who can't? That's very little to go by, but it' essentially what you've been trying to use as evidence, swap the car for alien tech handling.
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So you are saying that you do not need to be smart in order to have skills?
I would say it depends on what those skills are. Can you take a person with say an 8th grade education (for example) and teach them the skills to pilot the space shuttle and all that is required? I'm highly doubtful that you could.
I was a tradesman, Machinist although I've moved on and you certainly need skills to be a machinist but you also need to be fairly smart.
Lum certainly has skills but she also is pretty smart when it comes to tech stuff. She's not so bright when it comes to relationships or cooking.
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LoL? You don't even know if Lum's species love Lum's cooking! Lum is supposed to cook by her race's standards. Too bad if Ataru can't eat. x)
Right because you can't teach a dumb person to work out with a TV or a computer. Hmm... I wonder why my grandfather who was judge (one of the hardest things you can achieve in Portugal) can't work with computers or figure out to turn on a TV and change the channel. O.o
Do we become more dumb as we get old? No! It's because my grandfather isn't interested in that kind of knowledge. If you teach a kid about how to drive a spaceship, he may be able to learn it. It all depends on how you explain it to him. If you go around talking math with him, give up. But if you go like "when this goes on, press this" or "evade that" and voilá. He'll be good at it just like if it was a game.
I could never come up with the concept of electricity and my whole life is surrounded by it! Man, aren't I smart?
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Lum's cooking is far too spicey for earth people. But regardless of the fact that your grandfather was a judge and couldn't operate a VCR isn't a big deal because it's irrelevant to the main point which is Lum is faar smarter and can do more than any of the high school kids in UY and probably on a college level with college kids from Tomobiki.
So no she probably didn't invent anything like electricity but then again neither has any of the Tomobiki college kids.
You really draw out your point of comparing apples to Buicks.
Lum can certainly operate a spaceship but she can also do the math involved in figuring out a destination. Lum is smarter than you give her credit for. Grandfathers notwithstanding.
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Can you take a person with say an 8th grade education (for example) and teach them the skills to pilot the space shuttle and all that is required?
Ummm.... Yes, I'm pretty sure that is plausible.
Lum is faar smarter and [...] probably on a college level.
LMAO
okay, if you want to prove your point, you're going to have to point out to us a case from the manga or anime where she demonstrates actual intelligence on a high level
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Can you take a person with say an 8th grade education (for example) and teach them the skills to pilot the space shuttle and all that is required?
Ummm.... Yes, I'm pretty sure that is plausible.
Lum is faar smarter and [...] probably on a college level.
LMAO
okay, if you want to prove your point, you're going to have to point out to us a case from the manga or anime where she demonstrates actual intelligence on a high level
Lum has very poor judgement when it comes to guys, since she picked Rei and then later Ataru. However showing poor judgement about relationships doesn't make her stupid overall. College isn't all that hard, I went and it was a lot of memorization except for Philosophy and then Ethics, those were pretty tough and had a 75% dropout rate.
Anyway think what you want about Lum, I still think she's as smart as most college kids and since more than a few of my wife's relatives didn't even make it to the 8th grade, in her country. I'd love to see you get one of them to even speak english nevermind teaching them to pilot the space shuttle which likely you can't even do.
Lum has her cluseless moments and can be a bit ditzy, but she doesn't really study at all in Tomobiki and still is passing. If she wasn't Onsen mark would be in her face about it.
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I never tried to use her ditzyness as an excuse/proof that she isn't smart. You're right, poor judgement about relationships doesn't make her stupid. Hell, I never said she was STUPID, what I'm doing is disagreeing with you on how smart she is, since you appear to be under the impression she is college level.
I still think she's as smart as most college kids and since more than a few of my wife's relatives didn't even make it to the 8th grade, in her country.
.... What the hell does that have to do with anything? 0.0
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I never tried to use her ditzyness as an excuse/proof that she isn't smart. You're right, poor judgement about relationships doesn't make her stupid. Hell, I never said she was STUPID, what I'm doing is disagreeing with you on how smart she is, since you appear to be under the impression she is college level.
I still think she's as smart as most college kids and since more than a few of my wife's relatives didn't even make it to the 8th grade, in her country.
.... What the hell does that have to do with anything? 0.0
It has everything to do with it since you claim it is plausible to teach someone with an 8th grade education how to fly the space shuttle. I seriously doubt that it's possible and some of my wife's relatives are not above 8th grade and really aren't smart enough to learn how to fly the space shuttle or other technical tasks. In the end you can't prove that Lum isn't at earth college level, you just have an opinion, same as myself. The only one who actually knows the answer is Rumiko Takahashi and I doubt either of us will get her to answer that question.
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Plausible means that it could happen, I never said EVERYONE can be taught to fly a ship. Some people's brains don't work in such a way that they can pic up such skills.
As for proof, I have more than you do >.>
We actually SEE her having trouble taking a test! How the hell is that not evidence? It's certainly better than you saying "she can operate a ship, therefore she is super smart"
Piloting her ship doesn't seem too difficult when it FLIES ITSELF on autopilot. She probably just presses a few buttons and then the program takes over from there.
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Ataru can't even reach Rei's heels when it comes to being a bad match!
Anyways, what's college knowledge? Do you know how many degrees there are? How the heck are you going to compare a math student with a med student?
None of us are saying that Lum is stupid or dumb. Me and UruseiNeo are just saying that we doubt that Lum is a super-genious.
And to complete this post, I'll just state this: Onsen-Mark doesn't care about grades. You know why I claim this? Because he's always on Ataru's business. Ataru's is his worst student ever so he's Onsen-Mark's worst enemy in UY. I highly doubt that other than Mendou, Shinobu and a few other nameless characters get high grades. Lum doesn't get yelled at by Onsen-Mark because she's an alien girl. And also because he's too obcessed with Ataru.
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Plausible means that it could happen, I never said EVERYONE can be taught to fly a ship. Some people's brains don't work in such a way that they can pic up such skills.
As for proof, I have more than you do >.>
We actually SEE her having trouble taking a test! How the hell is that not evidence? It's certainly better than you saying "she can operate a ship, therefore she is super smart"
Piloting her ship doesn't seem too difficult when it FLIES ITSELF on autopilot. She probably just presses a few buttons and then the program takes over from there.
You see now you are qualifying previous statements. My wife has trouble taking tests sometimes, yet she has a 4.0 GPA.
I don't see Lum taking tests all the much and most of what we do see is in Onsen Marks class which is English, so she has trouble with English, for all we know she could me a whiz at math. I also never said she was "super smart" I said i believe she is at human earh college level IN Tomobiki. I never said she was at MIT level or even Todai. Community College in a small city, yes.
My friend is a pilot who until recently flew 747 cargo jets for UPS. He'll get a kick out of your comment. I also had a private pilots license way back. I think the autopilot remark is from a lack of knowledge as to how autoplot works. I used to fly a Cessna 172. We had a sort of autopilot on that, nothing much but it helped on a long flight.
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Ataru can't even reach Rei's heels when it comes to being a bad match!
Anyways, what's college knowledge? Do you know how many degrees there are? How the heck are you going to compare a math student with a med student?
None of us are saying that Lum is stupid or dumb. Me and UruseiNeo are just saying that we doubt that Lum is a super-genious.
And to complete this post, I'll just state this: Onsen-Mark doesn't care about grades. You know why I claim this? Because he's always on Ataru's business. Ataru's is his worst student ever so he's Onsen-Mark's worst enemy in UY. I highly doubt that other than Mendou, Shinobu and a few other nameless characters get high grades. Lum doesn't get yelled at by Onsen-Mark because she's an alien girl. And also because he's too obcessed with Ataru.
Ok you need to find where i ssaid Lum was a super genius, because I never did. I said she is at college level in Tomobiki. Granted it's been about 30 years since I went to college but most college subjects are basics. It's after that that you take specialized courses.
Onsen Mark is an English teacher but i agree he is more about dedication than actual grades. I taught ESL in the Philippines to Korean students at CPILS. So I know a little bit about teaching English and Onsen Mark is not a native speaker so his focus is going to be on more than just grades which come in the form of tests. He does a lot of class reading as well. His biggest problem is not letting the class read more than he does.
Also he was hired by the principal as a strict disciplinarian to tame the wildest class in the school. He was corrupted by Lum as he fell for her on that date they went out on. Then he totally lost it and became as crazy as the students. There was a full episode about it.
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I think you're starting to think too realistcally on this. You need to understand that in anime, although this might be unlikely in real life, ships are perfectly capable of operating on their own through super advanced mechanics. My point being Lum doesn't need to be smart to operate it, just to know what button(s) to push.
And seriously dude, did you really think that when I said anyone can learn to pilot a ship I meant I could learn it in a few weeks? F*** no! Obviously it takes a lot of training and lessons, etc. to become qualified to do so. I'm saying that given time, at the very least most people should be able to BECOME qualified.
Here's where we stand:
Me/Cata: provided plausible information to why Lum isn't as smart as you insist she is.
You: For your claim that she is college level, you have only used speculation based on what we have failed to see in the anime.
You can't use "this has not happened" as evidence.
To finish my post, I feel I need to remind everyone: This is a f***ing anime. And as the main character, things tend to go in Lum's favor regardless of whether its high school or other important things (with exception to her relationship with Ataru because otherwise UY wouldn't be what it is). The reason why Onsen-Mark doesn't bother her? Maybe its cause the fans and the writer like it when Lum wins.
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To finish my post, I feel I need to remind everyone: This is a f***ing anime. And as the main character, things tend to go in Lum's favor regardless of whether its high school or other important things (with exception to her relationship with Ataru because otherwise UY wouldn't be what it is). The reason why Onsen-Mark doesn't bother her? Maybe its cause the fans and the writer like it when Lum wins.
Well sure it's an anime or a cartoon if you like. My favorite part of anime and cartoons is the detachment from reality. If I want reality I'll watch Top Shot or Mythbusters. I just think you and Cata are wrong about Lum being smart and IRL teaching people is harder than you think.
Lum wins because she is awesome. The real world and UY have little in common.
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Two camels in a tiny car, ifyaknowwhatImean :)
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Two camels in a tiny car, ifyaknowwhatImean :)
I don't know what you mean. What does that mean? (I'm being completely serious here btw)
Also, it's fun reading through these few pages of this argument. It's kinda ridiculous and very entertaining xD
I've enjoyed reading the back and forth arguments that went nowhere xP
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Hey, I'll have you know that this was one of the first arguments that actually stayed on subject more or less XD
As for what I said, if you are arguing with someone and say "Two camels in a tiny car" they can't top that reply so you win. lmao
I said it cause the argument was pretty much over anyway :D
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^ That's stupid. That's going offtopic and clearly running away from the argument so you obviously lose.
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So... going through college is easy, huh? You know what? I study every single day. I'm taking Law School, by the way. I'm on the 2nd year but I still have 3 subjects that I need to complete from the 1st year. My grades go from 4 to 12 in a scale of 1 to 20. Of course my grades below 7 are extremely rare but they occur. Even though I study my butt off so I can become a successfull layer, I haven't been able to get high grades (in portuguese's Law Schools, high grades go from 14 to 17. Teachers never give 18, 19 or 20). But guess what? I don't stop. I feel like I'm Ataru and each subject is a pretty girl I chase. I don't let any bad grade affect me. In fact, it only motivates me to prove other people wrong. So do you freaking tell me that college is basic or easy. Maybe in YOUR time and in YOUR degree was easy but right NOW, and where I AM, it's not. 70% of students fail the first 2 subjects of Civil Law. 70% of the students also fail the 2 subjects of Constitutional Law. Guess what? I'm on the 70% in the first case but I'm on the 30% in the second case so don't tell me that I don't study enough. There's lots of problems in where I study that only us who study there know about and that affects students in the most terrible way.
And you still haven't replied to me: what is college knowledge?
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[Half-offtopic]:
While its nice that you came up with a good argument for the college level thing, what you said was pretty mean considering I was on YOUR side of the argument >.>
Redcated and I were both trying to end the argument, I decided to take the route of humour so we can laugh at the end. Now the end has never been so far away >.>
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^ That's stupid. That's going offtopic and clearly running away from the argument so you obviously lose.
Redacted:
So... going through college is easy, huh? You know what? I study every single day. I'm taking Law School, by the way. I'm on the 2nd year but I still have 3 subjects that I need to complete from the 1st year. My grades go from 4 to 12 in a scale of 1 to 20. Of course my grades below 7 are extremely rare but they occur. Even though I study my butt off so I can become a successfull layer, I haven't been able to get high grades (in portuguese's Law Schools, high grades go from 14 to 17. Teachers never give 18, 19 or 20). But guess what? I don't stop. I feel like I'm Ataru and each subject is a pretty girl I chase. I don't let any bad grade affect me. In fact, it only motivates me to prove other people wrong. So do you freaking tell me that college is basic or easy. Maybe in YOUR time and in YOUR degree was easy but right NOW, and where I AM, it's not. 70% of students fail the first 2 subjects of Civil Law. 70% of the students also fail the 2 subjects of Constitutional Law. Guess what? I'm on the 70% in the first case but I'm on the 30% in the second case so don't tell me that I don't study enough. There's lots of problems in where I study that only us who study there know about and that affects students in the most terrible way.
And you still haven't replied to me: what is college knowledge?
Cata you are a very sensitive person who seems to overreact a lot. I don't know how you'll become an lawyer if you keep doing that.
My wife went to college Ace'd it. I went to college and I did ok, My sister has a PhD. Sure it depends on the courses you take but I took business management and then went back years later and got a degree in Computer Science. Yes it's hard work but moreso when you are going through it.
Also I cannot speak about what college is like in your country as I have no experience there. In my wife's country it's difficult and made harder by the fact that many teachers want a bribe. My wife couldn't afford to bribe anyone, and she still ace'd her IT degree.
I do know a couple of guys who too law and I know from the at least in the US that it's a very tough course. But there are plenty of easy degrees depending on who you are. My sister is a whiz at math, she was doing Calc 4 and Physics in High school. Math is so easy for her it's like she doesn't have to study. I have to work my ass off to do well in Math.
As far as secret problems studying, ok what can anyone say to that? It's a secret so only you know how tough it is.
Keep at it and it'll work out eventually. The guy I knew said his biggest issue was what type of law he wanted to specialize in. He really agonized over it.
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I'm sorry if I offended you, Neo. If you're sick of an argument, you can simply "shut up".
Redacted: so... I'm sensitive and I overreact and therefore I can't be a good lawyer. It's funny because you base that on arguments and what lawyers do is argue with eachother in order to get the best situation for their clients. I didn't cuss, insult you or ran from the questions. I didn't come up with stupid theories to prove my point. I'm not saying you did, I'm saying I don't think I overreacted. If by overreacting you mean arguing and arguing and arguing, well I like arguing. It's one of the best ways to know someone and to get some knowledge about things. It also prepares me for when I go to court and argue with other lawyers and such.
Oh and one more thing: about becoming a lawyer... we'll see about that, "darling".
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I'm sorry if I offended you, Neo. If you're sick of an argument, you can simply "shut up".
Redacted: so... I'm sensitive and I overreact and therefore I can't be a good lawyer. It's funny because you base that on arguments and what lawyers do is argue with eachother in order to get the best situation for their clients. I didn't cuss, insult you or ran from the questions. I didn't come up with stupid theories to prove my point. I'm not saying you did, I'm saying I don't think I overreacted. If by overreacting you mean arguing and arguing and arguing, well I like arguing. It's one of the best ways to know someone and to get some knowledge about things. It also prepares me for when I go to court and argue with other lawyers and such.
Oh and one more thing: about becoming a lawyer... we'll see about that, "darling".
Lawyers argue facts because they are in a court of law. This is an Anime forum, not a court of law. If yoou reread my words I did not accuse you of anything except being oversensitive and said you "seem" to overreact a lot.
Yet you tell UruseiNeo to shut up if he doesn't like to argue. In 2 more years or so when/if you graduate from law school it will be interesting to see if you still have the same attitude.
Women, in general, tend to overcompensate in order to prove themselves.
Yoour last statement "Oh and one more thing: about becoming a lawyer... we'll see about that, "darling"." is baffling. Where did I say you can't become a lawyer? You aluded to problems studying that is a secret to everyone except the people studying. Not much anyone can say about that.
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LoL? What's the point of saying something when you have nothing to say? Of course Neo has the right to speak/write whenever he wants and however he wants. All I said was express my opinion on "spamming" discussions. What's the point of saying "pokemon" when everyone's talking about food? It doesn't make any sense and it's just stupid. This is my opinion and if you get offended by it, I'm sorry you feel that way.
Also, this is a Forum. And what's a Forum? It's an online place where people get together and discuss topics that they create. If you want to stop sharing your thoughts, you're free to do so. But I'm not satisfied because no one proved me wrong and therefore I'll keep on discussing until there's no one left arguing with me in a logic way (in other words, not trolling or saying insane remarks).
I couldn't care less about what people think of me. None of my family members support me whether it's my sexual orientation, my hobbies or my professional path and I still do what I like to do and I'm not going to change myself for no one but me. So... deal with it. =/
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OMG Cata, let it go >.<
I was NOT spamming NOR was I going offtopic because I was essentially saying "argument over, let's move on" using a phrase I learned from online that ACTUALLY MEANS THAT, which I found humorous therefore thought it would be a fun way to end it so every has a smile on there faces. Is it my fault you didn't get it? NO! Someone asked what it meant and I told them, it was THAT easy.
If you're sick of an argument, you can simply "shut up".
Okay........
Shut up
Because now this HAS gone offtopic. I wish I was a moderator so I could close this >.<
Redacted, I suggest you just stop posting. You would not be admitting defeat in anyway and it would stop this from escalating further. Unless of course you actually are enjoying this argument, in which case go ahead, I can't stop you.
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Redacted, I suggest you just stop posting. You would not be admitting defeat in anyway and it would stop this from escalating further. Unless of course you actually are enjoying this argument, in which case go ahead, I can't stop you.
I believe it was George Bernard Shaw who said "Never wrestle with a pig, you just get dirty and the pig enjoys it."
I have found that quote to be very helpful in Internet arguements. ;)
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I'll ask Lum-chan to remove me from the Mods' list. Maybe one of you can fill in for me.
Also, this Forum lost me as a member because lately this isn't what it used to be anymore and it changed for the worse. It isn't about Lum or UY anymore. UY is a closed chapter in my life. I don't think I'll ever rewatch the series again. I still love it but I have other Anime priorities now. UY is still a favourite and I highly doubt that it will lose its place. I'm happy with the 6(?) years I spent here and each one of them flew real fast. I'm glad I "met" you guys and keep posting.
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Don't take it that way. It's a normal drawback of liking classics with little new material made. Just something us UY fans have grown to accept. No different than countless other series there.
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I stopped watching UY for many years, but now am back into it because my wife likes it. I have watched a ton of anime over my lifetime and that doesn't make the ones I really liked any less important to me. Sadly a lot of the newer anime doesn't really appeal to me as it's too mainstream. English voices butcher them so bad they are unwatchable.
If you move on you can always come back, no shame in that. :)
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I am locking this topic since it has brought more losses than real arguments and it is indeed a shame to have lost such a valuable moderator like Cata over a silly discussion
Say good night to this topic, Lumaholics