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Title: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Ataru+Lum on December 16, 2010, 03:41:08 PM
Why

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How

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Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Whyand How)
Post by: cata on December 17, 2010, 03:59:09 PM
What's up with the teeth? I understand where the bra and the horns are coming from but the teeth?

Any person would run away from such mouth! xD
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Ataru+Lum on December 17, 2010, 04:48:07 PM
Quote from: cata on December 17, 2010, 03:59:09 PM
What's up with the teeth? I understand where the bra and the horns are coming from but the teeth?

Any person would run away from such mouth! xD



Lum Invader has special powers beside electric zapping and flying, she can make Ataru become an Ugly Boy - Installing unremovable pair of horns on his head and making his teeth decayed. So, not any other girls else is willing to date with him. Then she doesn't worry that Ataru is unfaithful to her.
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Cosmic King on December 17, 2010, 05:39:50 PM
Quote from: Ataru+Lum on December 17, 2010, 04:48:07 PM
Lum Invader has special powers beside electric zapping and flying, she can make Ataru become an Ugly Boy - Installing unremovable pair of horns on his head and making his teeth decayed. So, not any other girls else is willing to date with him. Then she doesn't worry that Ataru is unfaithful to her.

Is this part of some Doujinshi that you made, Ataru+Lum?

I agree on the idea that Lum is willing to modify Ataru to look like a real Oni but I fail to agree with the idea of Lum making her "Darling" into an ugly man

By the way, Ataru+Lum, Could you explain us where did you get those Chinese pictures of Urusei Yatsura?
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: foxhead556 on December 18, 2010, 05:16:47 AM
cool ideas on the horns but the decayed teeth? just yuck
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Ataru+Lum on December 18, 2010, 06:27:04 AM
Those photos from Comics / Manga discussion forum Chinese sites.

Just full of Kuso.

In fact, Rumiko Takahashi said that early chapters of UY are full of Kuso.


Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: cata on December 18, 2010, 03:48:02 PM
The teeth are just too much.

Anyways, you're the artist. I'm just a fan. ;)
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: raikuni on December 19, 2010, 02:08:12 PM
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she can make Ataru become an Ugly Boy - Installing unremovable pair of horns on his head and making his teeth decayed. So, not any other girls else is willing to date with him. Then she doesn't worry that Ataru is unfaithful to her.

Sure it is, uhm, a peculiar logic... just like buying a car and then crashing it so no one would steal it
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: GiovaneDinamitardo on December 19, 2010, 02:59:55 PM
I find grottesque the look of Ataru that you've "created".

About the horns, remember that into an episode is Lamù that paste a pair of them on the head of her darling the day before Setsubon's Party, to avoid that he could fight next to Benten (in fact she said: "well, now that you got the horns it means that you become a real demon, so tomorrow we've to fight as ennemies" !!).

Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: cata on December 19, 2010, 04:49:24 PM
I totally agree with raikuni.
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Ataru+Lum on December 19, 2010, 05:44:34 PM
Quote from: raikuni on December 19, 2010, 02:08:12 PM
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she can make Ataru become an Ugly Boy - Installing unremovable pair of horns on his head and making his teeth decayed. So, not any other girls else is willing to date with him. Then she doesn't worry that Ataru is unfaithful to her.

Sure it is, uhm, a peculiar logic... just like buying a car and then crashing it so no one would steal it
Quote from: raikuni on December 19, 2010, 02:08:12 PM
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she can make Ataru become an Ugly Boy - Installing unremovable pair of horns on his head and making his teeth decayed. So, not any other girls else is willing to date with him. Then she doesn't worry that Ataru is unfaithful to her.

Sure it is, uhm, a peculiar logic... just like buying a car and then crashing it so no one would steal it

Still different!

At least, Lum will not kill Ataru, just modify his appearance to be less attractive.

Lum loves Ataru not for his appearance.

Do you remember a  animated TV chapter - The Yellow Ribbon

Ataru ties a Yellow Ribbon on Lum's horns and says that she is his wife. Lum is very happy and has a dream  they would live together even though Ataru is in poverty!

She dedicated her love and future to Ataru. But she is very furious of Ataru's flirty.

Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: raikuni on December 20, 2010, 02:41:37 PM
If you say so...
Still, I wouldn't kiss that mouth if I were Lum.

I suppose at the end of the cerimony the priest said: "you may now shake the bride's hand... and for Christ's sake DO NOT SMILE!" XD
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: cata on December 20, 2010, 04:41:46 PM
Oh gosh, I laughed so hard at Raikuni's post. x'D

Anyways, Ataru+Lum do you truly believe that love means changing someone else's appearance? I'll tell you right now that Lum is NOT that kind of person.
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Ataru+Lum on December 20, 2010, 04:59:33 PM
Quote from: raikuni on December 20, 2010, 02:41:37 PM
If you say so...
Still, I wouldn't kiss that mouth if I were Lum.

I suppose at the end of the cerimony the priest said: "you may now shake the bride's hand... and for Christ's sake DO NOT SMILE!" XD

ha ha

Maybe, this is a punishment on Ataru by King Invader.

To Earth and human being, Ataru saves them from invasion.

But to King Invader, Ataru ends his dream of invasion of Earth, I don't think he was still happy when Lum lost the tag game.

So, he and Lum should want to make Ataru assimilated to Ghost (Oni, Demon).
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Cosmic King on December 20, 2010, 06:07:05 PM
Quote from: Ataru+Lum on December 18, 2010, 06:27:04 AM
In fact, Rumiko Takahashi said that early chapters of UY are full of Kuso.

I find it quite hard to believe that she would say such a thing to one of her main works

I know she has said that she felt quite angry at the fact that readers wanted Lum back in the first chapters when she already had an idea of Ataru and Shinobu together but somehow methinks that Rumiko Takahashi would never insult her own works

Quote from: raikuni on December 20, 2010, 02:41:37 PM
Still, I wouldn't kiss that mouth if I were Lum.

I suppose at the end of the cerimony the priest said: "you may now shake the bride's hand... and for Christ's sake DO NOT SMILE!" XD

ROTFLOL

Quote from: Ataru+Lum on December 20, 2010, 04:59:33 PM
Maybe, this is a punishment on Ataru by King Invader

I know you were making a reference to Lum's Father but for a second there I thought you said that I punished Ataru ("King Invader" used to be my old username back in 2006)
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Ataru+Lum on December 21, 2010, 03:04:54 AM
Little 18+

So, only show the hyperlink but no the photo

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1133.snc4/149564_1650059726889_1098853541_31788023_639860_n.jpg (http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1133.snc4/149564_1650059726889_1098853541_31788023_639860_n.jpg)


Lum misunderstood that Ataru had proposed to her. She said that she would live with him for life and he would be punished with electrical zapping if his doing anything flirty and unfaithful to Lum. In fact, Lum demonstrated zapping on Ataru.

Lecherous Ataru is attracted to see the real breast of Lum.

Teeth-declayed and horn-installed Ataru comes! Ataru' fate is haunted by Lum, receiving Lum's high-voltage zapping for life. He lost all freedom to date other girls.

(Ataru think Lum is a ghost, power station and his prison.)

Finally, Ataru and Lum gets married even though Ataru shows his unwillingness.
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Cosmic King on December 21, 2010, 03:40:28 AM
The content of such picture isn't pornographic, Ataru+Lum, so feel free to show it to the rest of the Lumaholics
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Ataru+Lum on December 21, 2010, 05:07:24 AM
Even though I want Ataru and Shinobu live together in the final,

but I think that Lum Invader is more suitable to lecherous Ataru.

Lum Invader is more powerful and then she can limit Ataru's flirt behaviour.

Without Lum, the female in the World are dangerous! ha ha!
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: cata on December 21, 2010, 03:03:55 PM
So, in your mind there are 2 Ataru's correct? That's fine in fanfics. Not "fine" when talking about the actual series.

The thing is that there's only 1 Ataru and that's both the lecherous 1 and the hum... "normal" 1, each appearing according to the situation.

Lum can't restrict Ataru's pervy behaviour, except when she's gone but that's not really restricting it is it?

Shinobu moved on. Besides, she would only marry Ataru if he won the tag game. Isn't that shallow?

And about Lum being more powerful... I highly doubt that. Sure she as powers and abbilities but Ataru will never go down or stop. I would say they're equal.
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Ataru+Lum on December 21, 2010, 03:52:01 PM
Quote from: cata on December 21, 2010, 03:03:55 PM
So, in your mind there are 2 Ataru's correct? That's fine in fanfics. Not "fine" when talking about the actual series.

The thing is that there's only 1 Ataru and that's both the lecherous 1 and the hum... "normal" 1, each appearing according to the situation.

Lum can't restrict Ataru's pervy behaviour, except when she's gone but that's not really restricting it is it?

Shinobu moved on. Besides, she would only marry Ataru if he won the tag game. Isn't that shallow?

And about Lum being more powerful... I highly doubt that. Sure she as powers and abbilities but Ataru will never go down or stop. I would say they're equal.



In fact, there is an early chapter mentioning Ataru spilts in two after eating both spicy food from Lum and a bun from Cherry.

One is hardworking and serious Ataru, who likes Shinobu.

Another is lecherous and silly Ataru, who likes sexy Lum Invader.

Ataru's father can't afford to 2 Atarus (Um, Ataru is 17-years old)

His father would rather keep the former and let the latter one leave the Earth for Oniboshi.

But his mother wants Ataru change back to original.
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Ataru+Lum on December 21, 2010, 05:29:31 PM
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Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Cosmic King on December 21, 2010, 06:56:29 PM
Why did you posted again that scene from the first chapter, Ataru+Lum?

There are tons of scenes that you could use to prove your points, my friend, so feel free to use them instead of always using the same image
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Ataru+Lum on December 21, 2010, 11:57:26 PM
I know that Lum and his father were one-chapter characters for initial plan. And disappeared in the 2nd chapter.

However readers and fans wanted Lum to come back. Also, Takahashi's team had no idea for the following chapters. Lum returned in the 3rd chapter and formaly becames a major character.

But in chapter 1, her father Ataru must came to Oniboshi for marriage with Lum. But in chapter 3, Lum camed to Earth for Ataru. It made a little contradiction. (At least, Lum is a princess of Oniboshi, her father should object her to live in the Earth permantly.)
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: UruseiNeo on December 22, 2010, 12:06:40 AM
Don't call Lum a princess... or an evil and long forgotten user will rise from the depths of the internet to assassinate you XD
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Cosmic King on December 22, 2010, 02:56:03 AM
Quote from: Ataru+Lum on December 21, 2010, 11:57:26 PM
But in chapter 1, her father Ataru must came to Oniboshi for marriage with Lum. But in chapter 3, Lum camed to Earth for Ataru. It made a little contradiction. (At least, Lum is a princess of Oniboshi, her father should object her to live in the Earth permantly.)

Look, Ataru+Lum, I am not some kind of Grammar Police but I think that everybody here is having some problems understanding some of your posts considering that just said that Ataru is Lum's Father (I know it was an innocent mistake but one that might cause confusion)

Believe me when I tell you that I used to have poor grammar considering that my first posts made little sense (I used to write as if the UY Forum was the MSN Messenger) and that is why I want to help you on this matter

You should express better your ideas in order for more Lumaholics to understand you, Ataru+Lum

Keep the good work

Quote from: UruseiNeo on December 22, 2010, 12:06:40 AM
Don't call Lum a princess... or an evil and long forgotten user will rise from the depths of the internet to assassinate you XD

This may be Off-Topic but I want to know who is this evil user, UruseiNeo
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: UruseiNeo on December 22, 2010, 03:01:30 AM
SidZero XD
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Cosmic King on December 22, 2010, 03:11:31 AM
Thank you for the information, UruseiNeo

Back to the Original Topic, I have always believed that best method for Lum to marry Ataru (besides True Love) is using the candies known as "Heart Stealers" (from OVA 09)

They are fast, somehow efficient and easy to produce
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: veehive on December 22, 2010, 03:28:49 AM
Quote from: UruseiNeo on December 22, 2010, 03:01:30 AM
SidZero XD

SPEAK NOT THE NAME OF THE BEAST!  :X :(( :r :X :+ :_ }) :X
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: UruseiNeo on December 22, 2010, 06:10:46 AM
the problem with the Heart Candy is that its effect is temporary, though we do not know if the effect is capable of wearing off WHILE someone is holding onto a heart.
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Ataru+Lum on December 22, 2010, 08:03:01 AM
Quote from: Cosmic King on December 22, 2010, 02:56:03 AM
Quote from: Ataru+Lum on December 21, 2010, 11:57:26 PM
But in chapter 1, her father Ataru must came to Oniboshi for marriage with Lum. But in chapter 3, Lum camed to Earth for Ataru. It made a little contradiction. (At least, Lum is a princess of Oniboshi, her father should object her to live in the Earth permantly.)

Look, Ataru+Lum, I am not some kind of Grammar Police but I think that everybody here is having some problems understanding some of your posts considering that just said that Ataru is Lum's Father (I know it was an innocent mistake but one that might cause confusion)

Believe me when I tell you that I used to have poor grammar considering that my first posts made little sense (I used to write as if the UY Forum was the MSN Messenger) and that is why I want to help you on this matter

You should express better your ideas in order for more Lumaholics to understand you, Ataru+Lum

Keep the good work

Quote from: UruseiNeo on December 22, 2010, 12:06:40 AM
Don't call Lum a princess... or an evil and long forgotten user will rise from the depths of the internet to assassinate you XD

This may be Off-Topic but I want to know who is this evil user, UruseiNeo



But in chapter 1, her (Lum's) father claims Ataru must came to Oniboshi for marriage with Lum.


Just typing mistake  :???
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: raikuni on December 22, 2010, 12:52:23 PM
uhmmm, maybe it's a bit late to bring this up, Ataru+Lum... but since when Lum, Ataru's father or any other Oni have the power of changing people's aspect?

I mean it's a kind of power they never mentioned in the show at all!

And why do you keep calling Oni ghosts?!  :???
I can understand japanese word "Oni" may mean also "ghost", but they're demons! Devil-like aliens, it's clearly specified uncountable times during the story.
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: theclaw on December 22, 2010, 01:06:54 PM
Good question. What happens when a horn is attached to someone else?
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: cata on December 22, 2010, 05:09:28 PM
I think we should remain TRUE to the story when talking in this part of the Forum.

Topics of changing aspects of Lum or Ataru or any other character and talking about it, should be posted in the Fan-Fic section.
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Cosmic King on December 22, 2010, 05:46:09 PM
Quote from: Darkdevil
Indeed

I am quite sure that even Darkdevil would agree with this topic's particular development

Anyways, Atar+Lum, I shall tell you why Mr. Invader stopped asking Ataru to come with them to Planet Oniboshi

Lum had already "conquered" Planet Earth the moment she paid the Space Taxi Driver and asked to live with her Darling

We humans would have lost all our natural resources if Lum hadn't come to save our lives and we would have a bad relationship with the Onis if Ataru had refused to let Lum live with him

The race was just a game for the Onis if we consider that Lum "conquered" Earth by becoming a Heroine and an Ambassador for her people

That is probably the main reason why Mr. Invader stopped asking Ataru to come with them as well as wanting him to become a true Oni
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: raikuni on December 23, 2010, 02:57:49 AM
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Lum had already "conquered" Planet Earth the moment she paid the Space Taxi Driver and asked to live with her Darling

Ahahah the most expensive dowry of the galaxy, maybe that's the reason because poor Lum's flat broke for the rest of the series! XD
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: cata on December 23, 2010, 01:24:30 PM
Quote from: Cosmic King on December 22, 2010, 05:46:09 PM
Anyways, Atar+Lum, I shall tell you why Mr. Invader stopped asking Ataru to come with them to Planet Oniboshi

Lum had already "conquered" Planet Earth the moment she paid the Space Taxi Driver and asked to live with her Darling

We humans would have lost all our natural resources if Lum hadn't come to save our lives and we would have a bad relationship with the Onis if Ataru had refused to let Lum live with him

The race was just a game for the Onis if we consider that Lum "conquered" Earth by becoming a Heroine and an Ambassador for her people

That is probably the main reason why Mr. Invader stopped asking Ataru to come with them as well as wanting him to become a true Oni

I had never thought of that before and I must say: that makes total sense and I totally agree with it.
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Ataru+Lum on January 15, 2011, 11:36:34 AM
UY should have new chapter 2 - King of Oniboshi and Lum Invader kidnap Ataru Moroboshi to Oniboshi.
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Cosmic King on January 15, 2011, 07:18:42 PM
That is why we have fanfics, Ataru+Lum

Anyways, I think that the idea of kidnapping Ataru in the first episodes would only deny us the satisfaction of meeting the rest of the characters of Urusei Yatsura

Aye, Lum and Ataru are the main characters but we should not ignore the fact that all the other characters provide their own amount of greatness

It would be dull to only have stories of Lum playing Doctor Frankenstein with Ataru's genetic code (and teeth) as well as ignoring all the other great elements of our beloved Urusei Yatsura

Your story, Ataru+Lum, might work better as the final chapter of Urusei Yatsura
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Ataru+Lum on January 16, 2011, 10:12:10 AM
Quote from: raikuni on December 20, 2010, 02:41:37 PM
If you say so...
Still, I wouldn't kiss that mouth if I were Lum.

I suppose at the end of the cerimony the priest said: "you may now shake the bride's hand... and for Christ's sake DO NOT SMILE!" XD



If you were Lum, you don't mind Ataru's appearance. you should only mind his flirty on other girls.

So, Lum (You) should not mind kissing him even though Ataru's teeth becomes decayed.

You have confidence to say that I own Ataru forever and no girl else will get him.
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: cata on January 16, 2011, 12:56:12 PM
Man, I wish I could fall in love with you and make your teeth decayed and then fall out of love with you and leave you like that. ^.^
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: raikuni on January 16, 2011, 08:48:34 PM
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If you were Lum, you don't mind Ataru's appearance.

First off, in the 82nd episode of the anime "Full of sunshine, full of Amours" Lum sees the dolphin transformation into an ugly man and shouts "what is handsome about that?!" and he answer "who cares about appearances?!" and she replies "I'm not going out with unless you're handsome."
Even if she doesn't spite ugly people, that doesn't mean she would date them so carefreely!

Beside, one thing is loving someone despite his appearance, another thing is making someone ugly and then loving him!

 
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YOU have confidence to say that I own Ataru forever and no girl else will get him.

You can have Ataru anytime! I'll take Lum, mean myself, and take a hot bath!  ;D ;D ;D

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Man, I wish I could fall in love with you and make your teeth decayed and then fall out of love with you and leave you like that.

Do it Cata! Do it! I'll hold him still! XDXDXD
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Kroptik on January 17, 2011, 01:57:54 AM
Quote from: raikuni on January 16, 2011, 08:48:34 PM
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If you were Lum, you don't mind Ataru's appearance.

First off, in the 82nd episode of the anime "Full of sunshine, full of Amours" Lum sees the dolphin transformation into an ugly man and shouts "what is handsome about that?!" and he answer "who cares about appearances?!" and she replies "I'm not going out with unless you're handsome."
Even if she doesn't spite ugly people, that doesn't mean she would date them so carefreely!

Beside, one thing is loving someone despite his appearance, another thing is making someone ugly and then loving him!

It's true she said that, but it's also true that she wanted a handsome man to make Ataru jealous, because we all know that's one of the things that cause him to react towards showing how much he cares for Lum.

Besides, there's that episode where she "dates" the teacher, and he aint particularly a looker himself. Though she was coaxed by Ataru into that, she never seemed to show anything about not liking the guy (I believe in the end she even said something about not being a bad date or something).
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: FallinG_StaR on January 17, 2011, 05:01:56 AM
Have you guys seen the episodes with flashbacks to the years when Lum was in school?

A classroom full of what to me looks like ugly monsters (aliens) so I think Lum wouldn't mind dating a ugly guy. The only reason she hates Rei is because he likes food more than he likes her... and maybe the fact he turns into a Cow... :P
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: cata on January 17, 2011, 11:25:45 AM
I already said this tons of times: I find Ataru attractive. I do. To me, Ataru > Mendou. I truly believe Lum's standards for "attractive" are different from our standards.

I really think Lum finds Ataru cute and I'm not saying that because she loves him.
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: veehive on January 31, 2011, 05:42:52 AM
Ataru is NOT ugly. What he lacks is glamour, perhaps: the polish of a Shuutoru. Ataru is a diamond-in-the-rough.

Back to the topic. Why (and when and how) will Lum and Ataru get married? When Ataru can make it HIS idea. When everybody else on the planet and beyond -- including Lum herself -- stops trying to push him into doing it. When HE can say, "I love you Lum and I want to marry you" because HE wants to and NOT because everybody else wants him to ... then he will say it, and he will do it, and he will mean it. When Ataru can stop defending himself against everyone else imposing their will on him ... he will be able to act on his own ideas.

THAT's when -- and why -- and how -- Lum and Ataru will be married.
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: foxhead556 on January 31, 2011, 06:45:22 AM
i dont think Ataru is THAT ugly. Hell this guy is worse than Ataru and hes still able to get a hot chick.
Spoiler (hover to show)
But anyways im sure Ataru KNOWS hes gonna get married sooner or later but hes trying to live out the rest of his free days till hes a devoted husband lol
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: cata on January 31, 2011, 11:02:09 AM
I had a philosophy teacher and I swear I'm not overreacting: he's one ugly and disgusting man! He sweats like a pig, doesn't have a sense of humor and all he cared about was eating chicken and philosophy.

One day, he showed us a picture of his wife. OMG!!! How can such an unattractive man get this fine looking woman? I couldn't accept such a thing because... well... I can't talk about looks but I'm not disgusting, I have a sense of humor and I care about other things beside my job.

Me and my friends tried to come up with explanations for this phenomenon like he's rich, she's a dumb blonde, etc. In the end, the other teachers explained to us why they're together and it's love. xD

So... yeah. Miracles still happen to VERY ugly people. =)
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: raikuni on February 01, 2011, 01:57:10 PM
Indeed!
Even today, it's not so rare that a sheer soul and beautiful personality are considered more charming than eight-pack abs or big breasts.
I also have a friend who is very ugly, but in spite of what happens in his life, he will stay cheerful and positive. The result is that girls would kill for him! XD

Basically, it depends on the person's perspective: just like Ataru and Lum.

Despite her beauty, Lum seems to appreciate a beautiful personality the most, that explain why she dumped the handsome but dimwit Rei and accepts to stay with Ataru, uglier, but with a kind soul deep within.

Ran, for example, and also Shinobu sometimes, seem to prefer the appearance. 
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Ataru+Lum on February 01, 2011, 07:43:22 PM
(http://www.lum-chan.com/gallery/1205_02_02_11_1_57_40.jpeg)
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Cosmic King on February 01, 2011, 08:24:22 PM
OH MY GOD, MY EYES!!!!

WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY DOING?!?!?!?!?

I AM NOT AGAINST COUPLES HAVING INTIMATE MOMENTS BUT THAT PICTURE LOOKS LIKE A SCENE TAKEN FROM SOME WEIRD HENTAI MOVIE

ARE YOU IMPLYING, ATARU+LUM, THAT LUM AND ATARU HAVE TO FUSE THEIR BODIES/BECOME A MONSTER IN ORDER TO BE HAPPY?!?!?

I DO NOT THINK THAT MAY WORK CONSIDERING THAT THEY DO NOT SEEM TO ENJOY SUCH UNHOLY UNION

(My apologies for writing with huge letters, Lumaholics, but I needed to express my opinion)
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: cata on February 02, 2011, 10:50:03 AM
Calm down, Cosmic. It's just a pic ;)

Raikuni:  that got me thinking... I must be one heck of a woman (but I'm not) xD
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Kroptik on February 02, 2011, 03:47:57 PM
Quote from: cata on February 02, 2011, 10:50:03 AM
Calm down, Cosmic. It's just a pic ;)

Raikuni:  that got me thinking... I must be one heck of a woman (but I'm not) xD

The same could've been said about the fat Lum version. =/

@Raikuni: Aside from the bad joke, that pic is seriously failing in proportions...
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Cosmic King on February 02, 2011, 05:06:33 PM
You are right, Cata, I need to relax a bit considering that such is not the Harbinger of Doom or something, hehehehe

Quote from: raikuni on February 01, 2011, 01:57:10 PM
Despite her beauty, Lum seems to appreciate a beautiful personality the most, that explain why she dumped the handsome but dimwit Rei and accepts to stay with Ataru, uglier, but with a kind soul deep within.

Ran, for example, and also Shinobu sometimes, seem to prefer the appearance.

That might explain why Lum accepted a date with Kuribayashi-sensei even when he was an enemy of Ataru if we consider the fact that Lum saw him as a shy and (kinda) noble man even when most students saw him as a tyrant

An interesting fact that comes to mind is that Kuribayashi-sensei was voiced by Tessho Genda, the same man that was the voice of Rei

Now regarding Ran and Shinobu, it is quite interesting to notice that only Shinobu has confessed that all she wanted is physical beauty (at least till she met Inaba) while Ran loves Rei no matter what appearance Rei takes
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: veehive on February 03, 2011, 04:18:08 AM
Cosmic: I had a similar reaction to some of Ataru+Lum's fanart: it reminded me of the "Fatty Lum" invasion of a few years ago.
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: cata on February 03, 2011, 11:10:56 AM
If you take that "fatty Lum" as another random character it isn't that bad. It's just art. You feel sick? Watch some original UY. ;)
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: raikuni on February 03, 2011, 02:54:04 PM
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An interesting fact that comes to mind is that Kuribayashi-sensei was voiced by Tessho Genda, the same man that was the voice of Rei

Ahah Since Rei says about 10 words in the whole series, I think one can hardly tell! XD

That picture is hideous, and the absence of any text that may explain its function makes me feel even more puzzled. We were talking about bad looking people, not some impossible Oni/Earthling Kamasutra position.

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that got me thinking... I must be one heck of a woman (but I'm not) xD

Oh, but I'm sure you are, Cata-chan. :)

I've got absolutely nothing against fat people, on the contrary! But I hate that "fatty Lum" images.
An overweight Lum in a cute pose and nice smile would surely look nice. A whale-sized Lum with a pile of junk-food in her hand and on her mouth with a disgusted-looking slim person staring at her is just plain fetish.

Anyway, I agree with Cata about watching some original UY! :)
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: foxhead556 on February 04, 2011, 12:39:17 AM
lol seems like every1 seen those fatty lum pics. When the hell was this event? but anyways i didn't really see anything crazy(expect ataru's rotten teeth) in ataru+lum's fan art. I thought the box with a heart on it was 1 of those censor things since ataru had lum's bra in his hand.
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: cata on February 04, 2011, 10:48:46 AM
You may not like to see a fatty Lum and there's nothing wrong with that BUT why can't someone who apreciates it, show it? Don't like it? Don't do it. ;)
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Ataru+Lum on February 04, 2011, 02:52:37 PM
Quote from: Cosmic King on February 01, 2011, 08:24:22 PM
OH MY GOD, MY EYES!!!!

WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY DOING?!?!?!?!?

I AM NOT AGAINST COUPLES HAVING INTIMATE MOMENTS BUT THAT PICTURE LOOKS LIKE A SCENE TAKEN FROM SOME WEIRD HENTAI MOVIE

ARE YOU IMPLYING, ATARU+LUM, THAT LUM AND ATARU HAVE TO FUSE THEIR BODIES/BECOME A MONSTER IN ORDER TO BE HAPPY?!?!?

I DO NOT THINK THAT MAY WORK CONSIDERING THAT THEY DO NOT SEEM TO ENJOY SUCH UNHOLY UNION

(My apologies for writing with huge letters, Lumaholics, but I needed to express my opinion)



Simply say, they share same wooden body and same heart.

When Lum feels furious and discharges electricity, Ataru will get the torture. He has no way to escape.

They will live and die together.
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: raikuni on February 04, 2011, 04:08:46 PM
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You may not like to see a fatty Lum and there's nothing wrong with that BUT why can't someone who apreciates it, show it? Don't like it? Don't do it. Wink

I don't think I've ever said people are not allowed to post whathever they want Cata, I was just expressing my honest opinion about that topic in particular. Every artist who show his works should be ready for at least a bit of costructive criticism.
I think it's not fair saying I like his pictures when it's a lie, I'm a drawer too, so I know that's no good.

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Simply say, they share same wooden body and same heart.

When Lum feels furious and discharges electricity, Ataru will get the torture. He has no way to escape.

They will live and die together.

...Oooookaaay... that was almost... poetically... disturbing.
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: cata on February 05, 2011, 11:24:59 AM
Raikuni, my comment was not for you. It was for everyone but not in particular.

However, your answer made me think. You say, everyone should draw and post whatever they feel like, right?

Then, you say an artist should get constructive criticism.

I agree with you on this.

But is "I like your work" or "your work is disgusting" constructive criticism?

Also, just because you draw it means that you know what's good art and bad art? Let me tell you something: art differs from person to person.

Also, in that particular case (fatty Lum) constructive criticism is about fat proportions or character characteristics. No one can say that the artist can't draw a fat person quite nicely, and I mean that about how a real fat person looks like.

Constructive criticism isn't "I like" or "you suck!". It's much more than that. Constructive criticism is something like that "I think the neck is too big" or "I love the eyes but that nose is kind of weird". In "fatty Lum", your comment should be more "I'm not a fan of fatty Lum BUT you sure know how to draw obese people" or whatever.

I don't like to think that Lum or any other character became fat BUT the author of "fatty Lum" is on of the best artists I've ever seen. The proportions are amazing. It's rare to see a person that can draw every part of the drawing in the same proportion.

And you can say whatever your opinion is on art without lying. Don't like it, say it. Like it? Say it. But don't say that's constructive criticism.
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: raikuni on February 05, 2011, 01:21:48 PM
First off I apologize to you ,Cata, for having taken personally a comment that was addressing no one in particular.

You know what? You're right. Comments like "your work is disgusting" or, in my very case "I hate that "fatty Lum images" are not constructive criticism at all. My opinion was obviously blurred by the fact that Lum is a character that I really like the way she is, and it looks like I can't appreciate that form of her, as I already specified, not nicely fat, but fetishingly obese.

I also admit that lines and proportions, as well as the anatomy of a fat body, are really well done in those drawings, plus, the author shows a good use of the colours,and that gets extra points in my book.

(sigh...) ALTHOUGH once again you're putting in my mouth word I didn't say. I've never said that "just because I draw" I know what is good art and bad art. I just said that, as a drawer, I know how much important are positive and even negative comments.
I'd surely prefer something like: "Your works are nice enough but I think you could do better this and that" than a simple "nice sketch" because the first one helps me improve.
Beside I know my art's nothing special, it's not like I'm boasting around about it.

Anyway, I do not wish to summon a debate with you, Cata, you seem a nice person so I'd like for us to stay in good terms :)
Moreover, I think we're way out of topic! So let's return to the original one, 'kay? ;D
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: cata on February 06, 2011, 05:25:43 PM
Oh please, discuss if you want. I think it's okay to discuss with people who know how to discuss. You're obviously NOT one of those people that can't accept other opinions or that has to be ALWAYS right or else! =)

I'll gladly discuss with you whatever UY topic you want. Even Mendo's hairgel. xD

I appologize for not understanding you correctly on that "I'm an artist so I know what's good and bad art". I really thought you meant that. This said, I take that "accusation" back.

Finally, thanks for the compliments. ^.^ You seem a nice person, too. =)

But yeah... Lum & Ataru (don't want to create confusion by putting a "+") will get married (poor attempt on putting the thread on the right track) xD
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: raikuni on February 06, 2011, 07:07:25 PM
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You're obviously one of those people that can't accept other opinions or that has to be ALWAYS right or else! =)
Ahah whatever you say dear Cata, ANYWAY, that makes two of us =)


They will definitely get married!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: cata on February 07, 2011, 10:41:55 AM
Oh snap! I forgot to type "not" after "obviously". I hope you realized that mistake. I really meant to say that you're NOT one of those people! =(
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: raikuni on February 07, 2011, 01:18:00 PM
Oh my God! One misunderstanding after another!
Maybe if we reach 10 mistakes in one discussion Lum-chan will give us a prize, like a panda plushie or something! XDXD

Once again, sorry, and thanks for the compliments!  ;D

Umpteenth attempt on putting the topic on the right track :-X: I think Ataru and Lum are simply destinated to be married one day! After all I don't see any other possibility, since not getting married would mean for them to part their ways and find someone else, and that's UNAPCETTABLE!!

Another possibility would be for them to chase each other forever, like Takahashi kind of hinted with the ending of the 5th movie, but I think marriage with Ataru is something Lum cherishes too much to give it up, and Ataru's feelings for her were costantly raising during the series.

And let's not forget the future Ataru and Lum saw in which they got married and Lum's "sweet home with Darling" doorknob still wandering in the rabbit hole.

In short, I'm firmly convinced they'll eventually get married! Rumiko left an open final to let anyone understanding the UY gang's gonna live thousands of adventures before getting settled, but I can't think for the two of them not being together! XDXD

To anyone: What do you think?  :)

Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: cata on February 08, 2011, 12:00:56 PM
It's not like if they won't marry they can't be together. People can still be together for years without marrying. Most people marry because of the rights that come with it. My parents is one of those examples.

But yeah, they'll definetely get married.
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Ataru+Lum on February 20, 2011, 07:10:00 AM
Quote from: Cosmic King on February 01, 2011, 08:24:22 PM
OH MY GOD, MY EYES!!!!

WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY DOING?!?!?!?!?

I AM NOT AGAINST COUPLES HAVING INTIMATE MOMENTS BUT THAT PICTURE LOOKS LIKE A SCENE TAKEN FROM SOME WEIRD HENTAI MOVIE

ARE YOU IMPLYING, ATARU+LUM, THAT LUM AND ATARU HAVE TO FUSE THEIR BODIES/BECOME A MONSTER IN ORDER TO BE HAPPY?!?!?

I DO NOT THINK THAT MAY WORK CONSIDERING THAT THEY DO NOT SEEM TO ENJOY SUCH UNHOLY UNION

(My apologies for writing with huge letters, Lumaholics, but I needed to express my opinion)


It is interesting that Ataru and Lum becomes wholly union - live and die together.  This is a fate as Cherry says.
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: cata on February 20, 2011, 01:25:49 PM
"T'is fate" by Cherry is ALWAYS reffering to Ataru's bad luck. I don't believe in fates and destinies and such but I do think that Lum and Ataru were made and meant to be together (well... not made because Rumiko wanted Ataru&Shinobu).
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Ataru+Lum on February 21, 2011, 12:06:58 PM
If I am Ataru, I must devote my love on Shinobu and do not be flirt. I don't give any chance for Lum to capture me! If she forces me (non-flirt Ataru) to love her and hurts Shinobu, I must defence Shinobu and my right of love against Lum, even though I may scarifies my life. If Lum zaps me, I will use a hard stone to knock her head and break her horns. I don't let Lum do what she wants in the Earth because I win the tag game and she must go with gentlemanship. (Human is human, Oni is oni. They cannot be together in reality.)


But as a third-part guy, I am willing to see flirt Ataru suffering torture by Lum. It will keep the safety of all female in the World.

(http://www.lum-chan.com/gallery/1205_12_01_11_5_19_53.jpeg)
(If Flirt Ataru does any thing stupid to anger Lum, it is easy for Lum to make Ataru to be Burnt Toast even Burnt Chicken Leg.)

(http://www.lum-chan.com/gallery/1205_01_01_11_1_59_36.jpeg)
(Ataru says, "Lum, please don't BDSM me!!!")


If I am Lum, I will give two choices to Ataru - Being turned to an ugly boy (Unremovable horns on his head, decayed teeth, no way to date another girl else) and staying in the Earth, or Keeping original appearance but moving (being kidnapped) to Oniboshi and no return to the Earth.

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs950.snc4/74381_1626877627351_1098853541_31748167_4890490_n.jpg)
(Ataru seems helpless and trapped by Invader's father and daughter! In this scene, Lum does not zap Ataru, but Ataru has still no way to escape from Lum. Also compared with King Invader, Ataru is too short, slim and weak. Even though Ataru has strong physical fitness, it is impossible for Ataru to fight with King Invader. Ataru seems frightened of Invader's family because he can't identifiy if they are hostile.)


If I am King Invader, I will say to Ataru that you must be punished because he ends my dream of conquering the Earth.


To Ataru, he enjoys freedom, girl hunting and queen-palace dream (queen-palace = a boy / man having multiple lovers). Existance of Lum ends his queen-palace dream. Without freedom, he seems to be imprisoned by Lum.
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: cata on February 22, 2011, 11:30:02 AM
I'll give you some advice: don't publish ANY story written by you. You'll have NO success at all.
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: raikuni on February 22, 2011, 02:34:01 PM
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I'll give you some advice: don't publish ANY story written by you. You'll have NO success at all.
Point... XDXD
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: theclaw on February 23, 2011, 11:12:52 AM
3 points... No, he's goaltending!
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Cosmic King on February 25, 2011, 04:08:39 PM
Quote from: Ataru+Lum on February 21, 2011, 12:06:58 PM
(Human is human, Oni is oni. They cannot be together in reality.)

Who can argue against this logical statement?

Somehow I understand your last post, Ataru+Lum, but I think there are some flaws on your story

First of all, How can Ataru break Lum's horns with a stone yet he is unable to break the horns that Lum will install on him? Are Onis' horns softer than artificial horns in your universe?

Second, How can Ataru be trapped by "Invader's father and daughter"? I don't see Lum's grandfather on the picture

Third, I think you should use the word "Harem" instead of "Queen-Palace" considering that it is the universal term

Finally, We need to decrease those BDSM scenes considering that it will ruin the story's continuity

I know those are just minor mistakes, Ataru+Lum, but I think you should keep practicing on your writing skills and you would be able to write an excellent story regarding Ataru and Lum
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: raikuni on February 25, 2011, 09:57:25 PM
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If Lum zaps me, I will use a hard stone to knock her head and break her horns.
Boy, you're cruel!
What would you do if she bites you? Dislodge her teeth with an uppercut?!



Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: cata on February 26, 2011, 11:31:52 AM
If anyone throws a rock at Lum, I swear I'll go BERSERK on their 4$$!!!
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: Kroptik on February 28, 2011, 11:25:42 PM
Oh please cata....
Do you really think you'd have time for that before I kicked the sh*t out of them all the way to next week? xD
Title: Re: Ataru and Lum Marriage (Why and How)
Post by: cata on March 01, 2011, 11:14:51 AM
Oh you'd be too busy for Mr. Prince. xD

Leave the 4$$ whooping to me. ;D