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Title: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 09, 2009, 07:19:41 PM
Okay, so all of a sudden, last night, I was inspired to start writing out an idea for a new story I'd like to work on. The ideas I have so far are brilliant (but no, I'm not sharing them yet). The problem is that I need to kill off my main character by about the 3rd or 4th page. Of course, I could think of a thousand different ways to kill the guy off, but so far nothing's really grabbing me as a spectacular way to die, and that's what I want... the bigger, the better. As long as his death doesn't take the whole world with him, the sky is the limit. Can anyone come up with anything?
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: SandStorm on March 09, 2009, 07:24:30 PM
ok, somehow, he slowly gets transformed in rock, and then, starts to crack himself, with beams of blindy light coming out from the gaps, until it explodes, leaving only dust in the air
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 09, 2009, 07:49:43 PM
Okay, let me add a few more limitations here.

For one, it needs to be realistic. Spontaneous combustion I could buy, but spontaneous petrification? I just don't see it happening.

For the other, no suicide. I was meaning to add that earlier, but I don't really want to have the guy kill himself, either. Accidents, acts of god, murder, whatever, it's fine, but no suicides... that's too messy.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: SandStorm on March 09, 2009, 07:51:27 PM
ok, let him being smashed by a train, while he's listening to heavy metal with the volume up loud, while crossing the train line.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 09, 2009, 07:56:32 PM
While drawing the guy get smashed by a train seems like it would be REALLY fun to draw, I really don't know if it's spectacular enough. It's not even as spectacular as my first idea, which was to have a random airplane fall out of the sky and crash into his car (if you ever play GTA:San Andreas, you've probably had it happen to you once or twice).
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: SandStorm on March 09, 2009, 07:59:34 PM
if you want to be a bit gore, you can try some ideas from one accident i saw, but trust me, it's yucky, since there was brain tissue splatted all around the place, and the guy head was something like half head with a metal thing who it it. :\
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 09, 2009, 08:02:28 PM
I don't necessarily want gore, I just want something that would make the reader say "now that would be an awesome way to die!"
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: UruseiNeo on March 09, 2009, 08:07:22 PM
You might not like this but.... actually never mind, I don't even wanna say it -_-

Hmmm.... could he die trying to rescue someone?
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 09, 2009, 08:10:04 PM
Sure. I haven't really decided much on the main character's personality (he doesn't even have a name yet), but it works out better if he's supposed to be a "good" person. So give me your best shot.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: UruseiNeo on March 09, 2009, 08:17:47 PM
Well, this is actually off the top of my head; you could have him know something bad is gonna happen to someone he cares about and then he finds a way to take their place and ends up getting killed himself. Additionally, this could provide a "he wasn't supposed to die" type of thing which allows him some special opportunities such as whatever you were planning on having him do.

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In case you were wondering about the one I dismissed, basically he gets something on him, maybe a chemical, that causes his skin to grow over holes, such as cuts. Thus, the skin molecules grow over his eyes, nose, and mouth and he suffocates.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: SandStorm on March 09, 2009, 08:18:52 PM
accidents evolving cars vs trains are always spetacular, you know, the train always win, while the car... :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5n_CTiDzC0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH3PrBqsP2w

this was at low speed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYoF6IionD8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhCyYjKu2Vo
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 09, 2009, 08:26:53 PM
Well, this is actually off the top of my head; you could have him know something bad is gonna happen to someone he cares about and then he finds a way to take their place and ends up getting killed himself. Additionally, this could provide a "he wasn't supposed to die" type of thing which allows him some special opportunities such as whatever you were planning on having him do.

The problem with that idea is that it would take too long to tell. Something like that is something you could write a whole story based off of. I just want to kill the guy off in an extravagant fashion. Also, the guy dying isn't for anything like that. He isn't some tragic story, he just dies.


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In case you were wondering about the one I dismissed, basically he gets something on him, maybe a chemical, that causes his skin to grow over holes, such as cuts. Thus, the skin molecules grow over his eyes, nose, and mouth and he suffocates.

Yeah, that was kinda lame.


accidents evolving cars vs trains are always spetacular, you know, the train always win, while the car... :P

Train vs Car is pretty awesome, but seriously, imagine Passenger Airliner vs Car. Compare footage of train crashes to plane crashes if you need help. If you're going to involve a wreck, it should at least top that.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: UruseiNeo on March 09, 2009, 08:31:02 PM
Okay, what if he finds some kind of mobbish group of bad guys and then they notice him. So he tries to drive away (assuming he drives) and they follow him, and because they shoot his tires or something, he ends up either crashing or driving off a cliff.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 09, 2009, 08:32:35 PM
You're putting too much story into it. There doesn't need to be a reason behind why he dies, he just dies.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: UruseiNeo on March 09, 2009, 08:33:26 PM
Poison his drink then
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 09, 2009, 08:45:39 PM
Better, but you're not thinking flashy at all.

Maybe I should throw out some hints as to what I have in store and see if that helps any. There's no real reason why he dies, and his whole concept is that he's just some random nobody who dies, only to be brought back to life 400 trillion years later by a race of machines with godlike technology to live as an example of a human in some kind of nature preserve that exists outside of space-time.

Yeah, it's something like that, so it has to at least be as cool as to set up for that. :)
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: UruseiNeo on March 09, 2009, 08:49:09 PM
Shot during a bank robbery? (Tried to be a hero or tried to use his phone?)
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 09, 2009, 08:54:20 PM
Am I asking too much?

Let me share some of the ideas I've had and have decided were not awesome enough.


First there was the one where the guy's driving along in his car and an airplane falls out of the sky and crashes into him.

Then there was the idea of having him walking along the sidewalk and then he just randomly gets run over by a car full of gangsters shooting at the police cars chasing them.

Then I thought about having him have a nuclear missile dropped on him.

Then he was going to get kidnapped and beheaded by terrorists.

And then I couldn't come up with anything better than any of those...
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: UruseiNeo on March 09, 2009, 09:00:14 PM
U said trying to be a hero was allowed. Dude, I'm telling you everything that comes to me.

How about choking on food? There's no real reason behind it, it happens by mere chance. It can be done at almost any time, and there's no big plot line around it.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 09, 2009, 09:11:13 PM
No offense, but it's just that your ideas suck. It's like the ideas you're offering are the kinds of thing that could happen to anyone, at any time. I'm looking for that something that'll only happen in a one in a billion chance and only to the unluckiest person in the world. But it's also gotta be something that gives an equal part impression of "wow, that's an awesome way to die" and "ouch, that's really gotta suck".

I know there's gotta be something to fit that, I just need some help finding it.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: UruseiNeo on March 09, 2009, 09:17:28 PM
Let's be honest, that's a tall order, especially when there can't be any real reason behind it.

Hey, what about hit by an asteroid/meteor? (whichever is smallest to minimize damage)
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: veehive on March 09, 2009, 09:43:03 PM
Hmmm ... "struck by a falling star" .... sounds decidedly familiar ....

Not without merit, 'though. Possibility for social commentary (e.g: a billboard for a "killer" beauty product -- "Cataheina Lip Gloss will Knock Him Dead" -- falls on him) or an in-joke (a Canadian module of the International Space Station disconnects and plummets to Earth, landing you-know-where)(no, I don't mean Flin-Flon), or even irony (spaceship containing the race that eventually resurrects him lands next to him; the gangplank drops down, trapping him underneath and crushing him to death; the first thing the aliens see is his mangled corpse... ).

Meh. I don't know ....
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: cata on March 09, 2009, 09:44:54 PM
How about a funny death? He could die because he got very scared! xD
Picture this: He's walking along the park, listening to music, steps into a banana peal or something that could make him fall, hits his head hard and dies.

He could be driving and a group of drunk people were driving too and a collision happens.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 09, 2009, 09:51:44 PM
Tall order it might be, but I'm sure it can be filled. A meteor would work, but I can't think of a way to make it feel natural enough for me. I'll leave it on the chalkboard, though.

I want to add one more stipulation to the death scenario though. He has to see it coming. It'll be easier to draw the whole death scene out in comic form that way.


The drunk driving idea suffers from the same problem as UruseiNeo's, it's something that could happen to anyone, at any time. I also don't want to turn his death into some morality lesson, which a drunk driving scenario would end up becoming. I do like the funny death idea, though. The banana peel is a good idea, but it kinda reminds me of another manga I read where they killed off the main character at the beginning by having him trip over a bottle and fall off a cliff. Which was also a very good way to kill your main character.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: UruseiNeo on March 09, 2009, 10:02:55 PM
How about the MC sees the meteor coming, panics but at the same time doesn't really do anything cause he feels he's doomed no matter where he goes.

Then, by the time the meteor gets close enough, it's been broken down to a small rock from the atmosphere. The rock hits MC in the head to kill him, leaving everyone and everything else unharmed.

The period MC panics can include a lot of comic relief too. And when I call it a "rock" I don't mean to make it sound too small, it could be any size really, just that the fact that he really COULD have avoided it adds to comic relief.

Edit: Also, this scenario is even MORE unlikely to happen than the regular meteor idea ^_^
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 09, 2009, 10:50:26 PM
You know, as clever as I might have been about not really giving anything away, I really don't have so much done with this idea that I need to play all mysterious about it. I only just came up with the idea last night anyway, so I might as well share what I got. I don't think I have enough to spoil anything anyway.


I'm going to give you all a treat, and give you a little insight into the way my mind works when I get creative. Now, let me bring you into my pace and just run my trains of thought here from when I was coming up with this idea...

So, I've been wanting to write some kind of harem manga for a while now, and I was thinking of ideas for one, for no particular reason. Just randomly the thought crossed my mind about terrorists and how they're supposed to have like, 99 virgins waiting for them in heaven if they kill Americans by blowing themselves up. I thought, that's the ultimate harem right there, I should write something like that. But there's no way I can give something that cool to a terrorist, I should just give it to me (or even better, an author surrogate!). So I started thinking about how to make something like that happen and not make it seem stupid. Then I remembered a crappy movie from back in the day called Freejack. In it, Emilio Estivez was a race car driver who gets into a major wreck at the beginning and supposedly dies. Instead, he is kidnapped by people from the future to be used as a spare body for some rich bastard who's about to die. The movie was typical early-90s cyberpunk trash, but it was a cool idea. I then remembered an episode of the Superman cartoon where some alien zookeeper kidnapped Superman and Lobo and was intending to preserve them as they were each the last of their species.

Thoughts started swirling, and I came up with the idea to have robots from the future trying to preserve an extinct humanity by resurrecting one guy and 99 chicks (each one taken from different points throughout human history, past, present and future) and put them onto some kind of Robinson Crusoe situation on an island paradise with the robots helping them out and encouraging them to "be fruitful". Then I thought, you know, I need to add something so that it doesn't get boring with the guy just banging chicks all the time. How about dinosaurs? Dinosaurs are fun to draw, and it'd be easy to put these people into situations where they're getting chased by and/or kicking the asses of dinosaurs. So I was like, ok, I got the action now, what next? How else can I disrupt this guy's sex life? That's when I came up with the only idea I have so far for the main character, that he's a complete loser around women. I'm still deciding whether or not to make him a sex-phobe, it's kinda up in the air at this point. I was gonna decide that after I figured out how to kill him.

Then I started going off on random tangent ideas like why these robots are doing this and came up with the idea to set it 400 trillion years in the future after the universe has begun to die and collapse in on itself, that the robots are the sole remaining sign of life in the entire universe, and that the robots are using their ultra-futuristic technology to preserve the "most influential lifeforms in the history of the universe" (that humans apparently are one of) in a pocket dimension outside of space-time. Cause you know, I like crazy sci-fi stuff like that.

Of course, I have a few other little ideas here and there for what I'm going to do with the story, and what direction I want to take it in, even some ideas for some of the characters I have to create (100 completely different and individual characters, I must be out of my mind to attempt this). But I hope this is enough to help inspire some ideas on how to kill my guy off, cause right now, that's what I'm stuck on (well, that and coming up with some kind of name for him). I just need to get the ball rolling again.  :?
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: UruseiNeo on March 09, 2009, 11:08:32 PM
about terrorists and how they're supposed to have like, 99 virgins waiting for them in heaven if they kill Americans by blowing themselves up.

72

(well, that and coming up with some kind of name for him)

How about "Shinu"? Means "to die" XD

I thought, that's the ultimate harem right there, I should write something like that.
...................................................... I'm done, bye :P
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 09, 2009, 11:24:32 PM
Is it 72? I've heard a lot of different numbers. I should probably look it up, but I like 99, it's a nice round number. :)

Also, that's a no on the name, he's not Japanese.


Just looked it up, guess it is 72. Hmmm...
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: UruseiNeo on March 09, 2009, 11:28:39 PM
sry, when I think of manga, I automatically think Japanese. Still, if he was japanese, that'd be a good name :)
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 09, 2009, 11:34:48 PM
I still need to kill him before I decide anything else. Picking a name is much further down the list.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: FallinG_StaR on March 10, 2009, 01:10:06 AM
I could give you some ideas... but I would need more info about his life...


But anyway here goes... What about if the guy dies in the mountains... victim of low temperatures and then gets covered by snow and the "alien" robots recover him and stuff like that...
And if you want him to die like a hero... just say he was searching for something or someone... :P
I went with the death by freazing because its simple way to revive him... even after a few nanotechnology modifications... XD

Ok I think that's enough... or else I wont stop... ;D


Just don't go with the Robots from the future thing... that will kill off the story right from the begining...
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: UruseiNeo on March 10, 2009, 02:18:17 AM
If you want him to be bad with women, you could have his death relate to such thus showing an aspect of his character. Also sounds like it has a hint of irony, to me
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: FallinG_StaR on March 10, 2009, 03:09:19 AM
LoL... Funny thing... because of this I watched Gurren Lagann... and let me tell you I still cant get passed episode 8...

Why did they have to kill off Kamina so early? Even if I already knew that was going to happen... It still pisses me off...


Returning to the topic... suicide because he couldn't get a date? Is that what you mean UruseiNeo? That's kinda lame... but it could be a possibility... depends on what background story Sidzero is planning for the guy...
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 10, 2009, 04:44:37 AM
To be honest, he has no background because it's completely irrelevant to the story. You guys seem to have the wrong idea. I'm not looking for story ideas. Everyone seems to want to give some kind of story about why he's dying, or make some big scene of it. His death is not as important as relaying the fact that he is dead. As such, I only want to make a spectacle of his death. That's it.


Since I'm asking for help, let me help you help me. Let me relate to you the rough idea of what I have in mind for the first few pages of this comic...

Page one is going to be the main character getting rejected. It'll be a pretty girl and she's going to be saying something along the lines of "Don't you think it would be better off if we just stay friends? I'm sorry, I just don't think we're very compatible romantically."

The second and third pages are just going to be a bunch of panels where he's whining about how much his life sucks cause he's never had a girlfriend in his life and how much he hates it. Then the last panel on the third page is going to be a close up of his face with a look of shock on his face.

The fourth and fifth page are going to be a two page spread of the moment before he's dying. This is where I'm stuck right now. Example: Let's say I want to kill him by crashing an airplane into him while he's riding his bike down the side of a road. It's a cool idea and if I don't come up with anything better I'll probably default on it. I would draw it as a silhouette of the guy on his bike looking up at the sky as a plane is moments away from impact. To make it an even cooler scene, I would have a beautiful scene of waves crashing on some rocks at a beach at sunset or something as a background.

The sixth page will have a panel or three at the top showing the aftermath of whatever his death is, but most of the page will be taken up by what looks like a sketch of the main guy fading to white. Opposite that on the seventh page, it will be mostly black but show a sequence of him opening his eyes in some white room.

The eighth page... well from here I'm not telling, but he meets one of the robots that brings him back to life who then explains his situation, and eventually he gets dumped on the island with the girls. All this scenario stuff setting up the situation is pretty unimportant. Most of what I'm focusing on as I tell this story is what takes place after they get dumped on the island, and how they have to build their own little society Robinson Crusoe style.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: UruseiNeo on March 10, 2009, 05:17:15 AM
I didn't say anything reguarding suicide! I meant something more like he could be trying to get a date with a girl and that leads to his death in someway, I don't know how, I left that open. In my last few ideas, I wasn't trying to make a story about why he was dying, I was trying to add comic relief or irony to his death.

Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: FallinG_StaR on March 10, 2009, 05:24:17 AM
Page one is going to be the main character getting rejected. It'll be a pretty girl and she's going to be saying something along the lines of "Don't you think it would be better off if we just stay friends? I'm sorry, I just don't think we're very compatible romantically."

That's pretty much what I meen by background story... for the death... (since I was talking about the idea UruseiNeo gave about the death by broken hearth thing)...
I wasn't talking about his life backgroung story...

Besides I think you have everything figured out... You seem to like the idea of a plane crash...

And Neo I didn't say that you said anything... I was giving an example of something related to:

If you want him to be bad with women, you could have his death relate to such thus showing an aspect of his character. Also sounds like it has a hint of irony, to me
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 10, 2009, 02:36:08 PM
I do really like the idea of the plane crash. More that I like the image I have in my head of that particular scene. The problem is that it doesn't really grab me. Dropping an airplane on the guy just doesn't seem over-the-top enough. That's why I'm saving it as a backup plan if I don't come up with something better by the deadlines I've given myself.


Oh, I should add something, my main guy has a name now. Adam Phoenix. Phoenix because he dies and comes back to life. Adam because I wanna make it kinda like the story in the bible, except instead, it's Adam and Eve and Melissa and Christina and Angela and Mary and Anna and Karen and Diana and Amy and Sara and Naomi and Hailey and Celeste and Gina and Fiona and Jenny and Lucy and Carol and Jessica and Theresa and Rose and Alice and Susan and Natalie and Lindsey and Cindy and Elizabeth and so on and so forth (but don't expect this list of random names to reflect the actual characters I use)...
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: FallinG_StaR on March 10, 2009, 03:05:19 PM
Over-the-top... What about to planes crash and fall on him... and then a spy satellite comes out of orbit and falls in the same place as the plane crash???

Ok... that probably is to much over the top... XD

Btw... Nice name for the character.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: UruseiNeo on March 10, 2009, 03:14:00 PM
You could probably have a hundred things crash onto him.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: ammo1991 on March 10, 2009, 04:23:38 PM
The guy was going to be a really perverted guy, right? What if he was peeking on the girls in the shower of a public bath. While he is standing on a tall ladder the girls sees him, bringing a little seed of panic. Then all the girls throws things at him (make a funny scene, put in for example a TV) then the guy falls backwards of the ladder, being smashed by it into the ground.

You could stop here, but you could also continue with a truck driving that way, sees him, tries to drive of, and then it roll over and also crushes the person.

PS: I love the story, it's a great idea, just remember to post it when you are done with the start of the story^^

Edit:
- Sorry for posting this late, kinda lost the network earlier:P
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 10, 2009, 05:17:59 PM
The guy was going to be a really perverted guy, right?

No, not at all. Like I said earlier, I was considering making him a sex-phobe and have him panic or pass out every time one of the girls tried to seduce him, which would have to be often. But I don't know how well that gimmick would fly, not to mention that's a gimmick that is better utilized in a longer, ongoing story, and I'm just trying to keep this one short.



I'm probably going to end up sticking with the airplane at this rate. I wish I could just drop the moon on the guy or something, but something like that would be world ending and it wouldn't make sense if I had girls from the future in it too. I could have a tornado throw a house at him, but I don't want to turn him into the wicked witch of the west. Or a cow. A cow would be funny. But if I'm going to use animals, I might as well have an elephant step on him while a newspaper blows by with "Terrorists release zoo animals!" as a headline or something. Or I could be really random and have him crushed by an enormous foot (as a tribute to Monty Python, of course). Or I could just have him spontaneously combust. That's always fun. Oooh, I could go with the elephant idea and have the elephant spontaneously combusting. No, maybe that's a bit much. It's frustrating that I can't think of anything that really grabs me.


Or maybe I should just ask it like this... if you had to die tomorrow, but you could choose to die in any way imaginable, how would all of you choose to die? My answer wouldn't be any good because it would result in the nonexistence of reality (I'm hardcore like that), or at the very least starting a nuclear war. :(
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: cata on March 10, 2009, 09:38:26 PM
I think it would be really funny if the guy was uncult about sex. Like someone who never knew what sex was and stuff like that. What if he was attacked by a lion or some animal like that and died? The situation could be very very rare such as finding an orca in a lake or something.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: FallinG_StaR on March 11, 2009, 01:11:16 AM
Well... If I could choose the way I would die... It wouldn't help you... cause it would be a very manly way to die... I'll just say that because the rest of my idea is a bit too hardcore... XD

btw, I would die a happy man... ;D
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 11, 2009, 01:44:46 AM
Falling, if you die from something like that, you're pathetic and weak. As fun as it sounds, I think being killed like that would be very unmanly. Unless you're like... one foot in the grave old as it is.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: FallinG_StaR on March 11, 2009, 04:50:43 AM
What? Pathetic and weak? LoL

Oh! Did you think I would die having sex with hundreds of girls?
Yes... the age I'm thinking that I would die... yes I would probably look like a pathetic and weak 100 years old man... but still it would be a nice ending for my life's grand finale... XD

But yet... it's not what you're thinking... ;D
When I said hardcore it was using "your own" defenition of the word on the other post... XD
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: cata on March 11, 2009, 11:34:31 AM
I just a vision! Sorry if it's too stupid or whatever but I just imagined the guy on top of a tree, doing some "research" about girls while they were on a hot spring or a lake or something like that and one of the girls notices him watching them and this girl throws a rock at him, hits his head, falls down from the tree in the lake and gets eaten by an animal like an alligator or an orca or something like that.

I had another idea while I was thinking about Urusei Yatsura: lightening. Well, being hit/killed by lightening strikes is very rare but it can happen.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 11, 2009, 07:13:54 PM
I wouldn't say that idea is stupid, but that just seems out of character for what I have in mind.

Anyway, I've come up with a really REALLY cool idea for killing homeboy off. It definitely fits my requirements (and is most certainly over-the-top), but it might seem a little... insensitive, even offensive. So I don't know if I'll use it or not yet. But I would like some opinions on it. :)


So here's what I got. You all know how I'm already basing it off the idea of sending the guy to terrorist heaven with the 99 (or 72) virgins, so I decided to expand on that idea. I didn't want him to be a terrorist, but I thought... What if I make him an accidental terrorist? The part where I have him lamenting the suckage that is his life, I can have him walking to some crowded place, like a mall or something, and give him some reason or another to dig something out of his backpack. Then in the 2 page spread shock scene (what would have been the airplane crashing on him), he looks into his bag and sees some kind of timebomb on at 00:00:01 and his final words are "Hey, this isn't my bag...?"


Actually, I may have trouble resolving this with another idea I have for the story (well, at least one of the girls I came up with), but if I go with it, I'm sure I can figure it out.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: UruseiNeo on March 11, 2009, 07:24:35 PM
lol, reminds me of DBZ Abridged Ep 8 when Chaotsu uses Self-Destruct
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 11, 2009, 07:48:51 PM
It's a funny idea, but I wonder if I can pull off making him a terrorist with really making him a terrorist?
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: UruseiNeo on March 11, 2009, 08:14:16 PM
if u see the abridged version though, they made it so Chaotsu thought he could be wished back.

Chaotsu: You can just wish me back with the dragon balls. Now goodbye my friend.

Tien: That won't work! You've already been wished back with the dragon balls, we can't do it twice!

Chaotsu: ... Wait, what?

EXPLODE
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: cata on March 11, 2009, 10:07:06 PM
Poor Chiaotsu... xD
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 14, 2009, 03:59:34 PM
You know, as great as this idea is, I think I'm going to have to add it to the ever growing list of shelved projects. It's got too many damned characters for something I'm trying to keep short. I still need to do something short so I can start building some sort of portfolio, so now I need to come up with something new for that. I'm also reminded that it would probably be a good idea to organize all my shelved projects and keep a real list of all the good ideas that I'd someday like (or hope) to do. I'm starting to have too many to keep track of in my head (even I have trouble believing how many I have).

Ugh.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: UruseiNeo on March 14, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
Yeah, I have too many projects too -_-'''

But I try not to think about it too much. When I'm ready, I'll get around to them.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 14, 2009, 05:41:11 PM
Eh, I try to pace myself, just working on whatever I feel like at the time, taking time off whenever I feel like I need to, but I always feel like I'm slacking off if I'm not pushing myself all the time. I also feel like if I slack off too much, I'll never get anywhere with what I want to do. I'm getting old, I turn 28 in a week from today, and I'm getting frustrated with not really having anything to show for all I do. I can't say I don't enjoy my pace, but I need to start having results to show if I plan to do anything with it. Anyway, enough whining from me, I'm just frustrated...
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: UruseiNeo on March 14, 2009, 06:13:04 PM
I know that feeling all too well, it happens every so often. One thing I noticed is that, given time, you recover from such frustration.

Of course that concept is hard to grasp once you've entered the state XD

Theoretically, if you can grasp the concept during the frustration period, it should help you get over the overwhelming thoughts quicker.

Of course, I've never been able to do that -_-'''
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 16, 2009, 05:42:19 AM
In case anyone was wondering, I've started to organize my ideas. I've come to realize that many of them overlap and have very similar ideas. It makes me glad to be doing this because now I can better combine and refine these ideas. It's also helping me realize how many solid story ideas I actually have.

As it sits right now, I'm looking at eight story ideas that I have pretty well defined. Nine, if you count my idea to turn the first book I wrote (one I started writing when I was 10, and finished when I was 14) into a comic. Ten, if you what's becoming of UYRemix. Eleven, if I can come up with a story for this fictional fantasy world I've been creating, in detail, for the past 7 years, that was originally going to be used for an RPG I was creating. Of course, that count doesn't include all the half-assed ideas I've come up with over the years but never really explored for one reason or another (because if I added those, the list will probably have somewhere around 30-some-odd entries).

My plan right now is to write up some short summaries of these story ideas. Then maybe I'll share those summaries and get some feedback. Regardless, I'm sure this is going to help me keep better track of what I'm working on (and provide options for when I hit a stumbling block and need to work on something else).

Currently, I'm trying to concentrate on fleshing out the idea of what's becoming of my ideas for UYRemix, now that I've decided to scrap it and cannibalize the ideas for something a little more original. Actually, this is what I was working on before I came up with the 99 Virgins idea. Basically, I'm taking the ideas I had for UYRemix and removing as much of the original UY as I can. I've already got a lot of pretty good ideas (such as the alien girl I'll be replacing Lum with, Star Lucent), I just need to flesh them out some more, though there are a lot of ideas that still need a lot of work (such as the guy I'll be replacing Ataru with, who remains lacking in both name and personality). I'll probably be posting some of my ideas for it before too long once I flesh it out a little better. I'm thinking of posting it as a thread called "What ever happened to UYRemix?", so um... be on the lookout for that.

Anyway, that's enough status update.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: SandStorm on March 17, 2009, 03:56:58 AM
make him go on a trip, and somewhat he have one crash and die.
yup, he saw some nice 'things' got distracted and "BAM!"
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 17, 2009, 06:24:48 AM
Erm, um, sorry, perhaps I should have mentioned that I decided to go with the accidental terrorist idea when and if I ever get around to doing this story.

I would say that if you want to throw ideas at me, throw ideas for my used-to-be-UYRemix story, but I don't really want to give out anything until I nail down my 3 main characters (Ataru, Shinobu and Lum's replacements) and their dynamics first. Right now I got a few good ideas for the characters, but I have yet to strike that balance between them that will make for an interesting story. But I will say this one thing, the replacements have VERY little in common with their replacees.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 22, 2009, 06:22:02 PM
Okay, change of subject, but since it's still related, I'm keeping it in this thread.

So I was trying to work out some of the details on my list of story ideas, figuring out what I've really got and what I've really got to work on. Just something to kill the time with while I'm still trying to work out the dynamics of my 3 main characters in my still untitled used-to-be-UYRemix story (I'm still lacking a name for the male lead, but I've got the characterizations down, though I'm still working out the dynamics, especially between the male lead and the second female lead, Ataru and Shinobu's replacements if you're following along).

Anyway, let's say I had 11 ideas before. But one of them I decided needs to go back to being filed under "half-assed ideas that weren't really developed". I thought I had some good ideas for it, but I seemed to have lost most of them and all I have left anymore is a premise. So that idea is officially scrapped. .However, before I decided that, I came up with yet another really good idea that I wanted to share with the class to take it's place. I don't think I mind sharing it because it's immediately going on the shelf. This is because I think it's a really good idea and I really want to do it, but not yet. It's definitely a future project. Ok, so it lacks a lot of definition (characters and a big gap in the middle of the story, mostly), but the story idea I have down pat. So here's the basic idea (sorry, it's long):

The main character is an American Otaku, your typical anime/manga/video games/japanese anything fanboy American who wishes he was Japanese (who my expected fanbase will probably easily identify with). The story begins when he moves to Kyoto, Japan to go teach English at a local high school (and the story becomes even more familiar to me because that's what I'd like to do). Inspired greatly by the magnificent Great Teacher Onizuka (go read the manga or watch the anime or even the live-action show based on it, it's one of my favorite mangas and I highly recommend it to all), he decides to become the teacher who personally involves himself in trying to solve the problems in his students' lives. Within a week, he finds his first (and only, because his students are actually pretty normal) student with a problem he can solve. Of course, since this is me who's writing this story, it's going to be something completely ridiculous that gets out of hand. For starters, the girl (the aforementioned student) is an idol. Her problem that needs solving is that despite how much she loves being an idol, and loves coming to school, her parents are extremely traditional and are trying to marry her off and make her quit both. Enter the teacher, here to save the day, who sets himself up to be one of the marriage candidates, intending to fake the engagement until the girl is old enough to live her own life so that she doesn't have to quit the things she loves. Of course, traditional Japanese parents aren't going to want to marry their daughter off to some gaijin, but they agree when he reveals his secret identity as a world-famous novelist (novelist is subject to change, it was just the first thing to pop into my head, but world famous something-or-other, maybe like a retired child actor, I don't know) who's just using the teaching job as an excuse to stay in Japan. The school finds out and he has to face the board of directors who want to fire him for getting involved in a personal relationship with one of his students, but when he explains the circumstances, they reluctantly agree as long as the two of them agree to hide the relationship. This is where the big gap in the middle begins. I figure I'll fill the story out with the teacher trying to overcome cultural barrier and adapting to all kinds of Japanese traditional stuff, all the while trying to prevent the other students and the press from finding out the truth. Eventually it ends with the press finding out just weeks before the girl's graduation from high school, it becomes a big deal and I end the story with a happily ever after.


So yeah, that's the whole idea of the story. I'm kinda wondering what people think about how well something like that would work out as an idea for a comic, but really, I just want people to praise me for the awesomeness of the idea. I'm thinking of calling it Gaijin-Sensei. Thoughts?
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: FallinG_StaR on March 23, 2009, 12:52:15 AM
I'll just say this... (even if it doens't help alot...) XD

Looks good...  :-
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 23, 2009, 04:26:01 AM
Seriously though, don't I come up with the most random awesome ideas? I mean it's always like this. They just pop out of my head one after another, it's no wonder I can never get anything done.

Also, I forgot to mention one other thing about that story. I was planning to have it so that as the story progresses, the girl starts falling for the teacher as he constantly fights the natural urges that are bound to occur and keep it platonic while he's still her teacher. Of course, like any other cheezy romance, the happily ever after has to involve them getting married in the end, and of course there would also be the standard "a few years later" epilogue where everyone reunites and gets nostalgic.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: UruseiNeo on March 23, 2009, 04:35:47 AM
I find that, in general, when an anime contains a male character that initially is trying to not get too close with a main girl character, more female characters are bound to make things more difficult for him. Example: Ranma 1/2 and the Tenchi Series. In both, there's the main male not trying to get into a relationship in some way only to find that he ends up with lots of girls after him.

The opposite is true for male characters who act the opposite XD

Now, I'm not saying you should incorporate this into ur story, and I even doubt you will as it seems pretty vague and I'm not really sure how you would apply it. I just felt like sharing.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 23, 2009, 04:50:10 AM
No, I'm not really trying to make this into a harem story. Not this one, at least. You don't necessarily have to use other women as a plot device in a romance story. There are plenty of other ways to keep young lovers from having a sex life (especially making both leads non-aggressive in furthering the relationship). I have enough harem stories as it is on my list (out of eight I definitely want to do, half of those could easily be considered harem in one form or another). Not that I'm saying I won't use other potential lovers to complicate the relationship, but I don't really want to make that a major plot point in this story.
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: UruseiNeo on March 23, 2009, 05:08:15 PM
maybe a little something different could be that instead there are lots of guys after the girl that may or may not upset the teacher, especially since their relationship is a secret.

This stuff is off the top of my head, no need to take it seriously :p
Title: Re: I need some advice...
Post by: sidzero on March 23, 2009, 07:34:20 PM
Eh, I've got my own ideas for that story, so I can't really say I'm looking for help on ideas for it. Besides, it's on the shelf so I'm not really actively developing the idea yet. Despite my many distractions, I'm primarily focused on trying to come up with ideas for my used-to-be-UYRemix story.


Actually, as I was writing this, I was going to give out a bunch of information about the used-to-be-UYRemix story and ask for help with an idea for it that I was stumbling on, but as I was writing it, I worked it out. So nevermind. :)