The World of Urusei Yatsura's Lum

Urusei Yatsura - General => Urusei Yatsura General Discussion => Topic started by: sidzero on February 09, 2008, 02:14:28 AM

Title: Lum and Rei...?
Post by: sidzero on February 09, 2008, 02:14:28 AM
You know, I had a thought cross my mind not too long ago. It's concerning Lum and Rei's relationship that took place before the UY storyline. Obviously they would have been young teenagers at the time, so logic may or may not apply to the relationship at all, but how would that relationship have even been possible?

Let's think about it for a minute. Rei's one passion in life, really, is food. While he may be able to eat anything, regardless of taste, by the fact that he doesn't eat EVERYTHING (and by everything, I mean food and non-food substances), he must have some sort of limitations in his taste. He obviously enjoys Ran's cooking enough that it makes him, ultimately, get over Lum, and fall in love with her. But when you take Lum's cooking into account... how can he possibly have fallen in love with her in the first place? I get the impression that Lum's food is too spicy even by Oni standards through the series. After all, I don't even recall seeing even Ten having eaten her cooking.

How does someone who truly cares for nothing but food fall in love with someone who's cooking is too horrible to eat?
Title: Re: Lum and Rei...?
Post by: Cosmic King on February 09, 2008, 03:29:46 AM
Well,to start with,Lum's cooking doesnt seem to taste too spicy for her Oni kinsmen,in fact we could say it tastes normal for them (i have seen scenes of Ten eating Lum's food and liking it,besides Rei would even eat Ran if possible,he doesnt seem to mind food)

Anyways,Logic is something one shouldnt try while analyzing Rei,he seems pretty obvious and "complex" in several instances
Title: Re: Lum and Rei...?
Post by: GiovaneDinamitardo on February 09, 2008, 10:46:13 AM
About the question "how is possible", I think it's hard to have an answer: we would have to be inside the mind of Rumiko Takahashi to know it.

But we have also to consider some flashback: in the episode 178 ("memories from the past") Lamù give him a medaillon but the boy immediatly eat it, even if he seems already to be sensible to the fashion of Lamù.

In another one episode (a screenshot is also in the gallery), even during a flashback, we can see that Ran and Lamù giving him a large hod full of fruits: Rei still appreciate the one who belong to Lamù.

So, in my own opinion, Rei wasn't charmed by the cooking of Lamù but (really) for her beauty.

I give you another alternative consideration: what if the voracious starving of Rei is like an "handicap" that he really cannot control ?!?

I think so because of this: Sakura has the same "syndrome" but, on the contrary, she is able to hold up her self-control.

Is maybe for this reason that Ran is felt in love with Rei? Because she knows the real nature of the "desease" of him ?!?
Title: Re: Lum and Rei...?
Post by: Forgotten_Lum on February 09, 2008, 08:13:38 PM
i think the answer to this question is very easy, Rei has no taste, he just eats and eats and eats and the reason he fell in love with lum was because she was the first to give him food, Ran was a little late, maybe deep down (somewhere in his endless stomach) rei has a brain and that brain realises that if he gets one of the girls to marry him they will cook for him for the rest of his life, an endless food supply but if he goes for both Lum and Ran they will both leave him and he will be without someone giving him food, he's just stupid that he doesn't go Ran
Title: Re: Lum and Rei...?
Post by: GiovaneDinamitardo on February 09, 2008, 08:27:40 PM
Wait for a moment: if I've well understood, you're thinking that Rei will love one girl only if she will cook for him the rest of the life.

This is a logical consequence of the episode 6, when he asked this one to Lamù.

But, during the saga, he became to appreciate the cooking of Ran.

If what you're saying is true, why, sometimes, ask to Lamù to come back when he already knows that she will never cook for him ?

Our question seems like that who say: "it comes first the egg or the cicken"??
Title: Re: Lum and Rei...?
Post by: DarkDevil on February 09, 2008, 09:57:24 PM
Our question seems like that who say: "it comes first the egg or the cicken"??
And the answer to that question is: it was not the "cicken", nor the egg.

Edit: It is chicken.
Title: Re: Lum and Rei...?
Post by: Shutaro on February 09, 2008, 10:54:19 PM
Rei knows what he likes, Food and Lum. He devotes all of his brain power to getting these 2 simple goals.

Side note - The first legitimate chicken would have been layed from a 'nearly chicken' parent. Hence the egg came first  ;D
Title: Re: Lum and Rei...?
Post by: GiovaneDinamitardo on February 09, 2008, 11:07:46 PM
Quote
Edit: It is chicken.

Oops  ;D

All right, Shutaro: this is really a good interpretation.

Title: Re: Lum and Rei...?
Post by: cata on February 10, 2008, 12:47:39 AM
It's a good question... I think Lum "loved" Rei because his looks. Rei sticked with Lum because she knew how to keep him around her: feeding him. I guess Lum just didn't know yet what's true love, she just "judged" people  by their appearances.
Title: Re: Lum and Rei...?
Post by: Forgotten_Lum on February 10, 2008, 06:19:07 AM
and thus Lum was burned into Rei's umm stomache, wait heart, but Ran is slowly winning him over
Title: Re: Lum and Rei...?
Post by: Kroptik on February 10, 2008, 09:02:47 PM
It's natural to fall ibn love on looks, every teenager gets that before they start worrying about personality. Apparently Rei is very good looking by Oni (and human) standarts, so it's natural that girls would fall in love with him.

Now another question I'd like to know the answer to is:
What does Ran see in Rei anyway??
Title: Re: Lum and Rei...?
Post by: kyo on February 10, 2008, 09:35:51 PM
It's natural to fall ibn love on looks, every teenager gets that before they start worrying about personality. Apparently Rei is very good looking by Oni (and human) standarts, so it's natural that girls would fall in love with him.

Now another question I'd like to know the answer to is:
What does Ran see in Rei anyway??
What you didnt figure it out kroptik ? you just answer your own question : it looks pal (and the fact that her mom beat her when it was lum who did the naughty things :) ) really you just has to loo at it from a mental point of view.

Title: Re: Lum and Rei...?
Post by: Kroptik on February 10, 2008, 09:58:03 PM
I don't think Ran is that naive.
What I thought was that she could see it as a way to get back at Lum (one among many) because he loves her and they both love(d) him. Remember that Rei chose Lum over Ran.
Title: Re: Lum and Rei...?
Post by: kyo on February 10, 2008, 10:07:51 PM
I don't think Ran is that naive.
What I thought was that she could see it as a way to get back at Lum (one among many) because he loves her and they both love(d) him. Remember that Rei chose Lum over Ran.
touche but maybe rei make ran feel like someone can love her . it simple I know but to me it make sense
Title: Re: Lum and Rei...?
Post by: sidzero on February 11, 2008, 08:47:23 AM
Well, as for Ran's thing for Rei, I think it's pretty simple. Consider human (and probably alien) nature. We want what we can't have. Ran and Lum both fell for Rei at the same time, and Rei chose Lum over Ran (whether it was first come first serve, or whether there was a reason, we'll never know... probably first come first serve). Ran wanted Rei and because of Lum (who she blamed for every problem in her life), which made her want him more. Then Lum "threw him away" (in Ran's eyes), which made her even more mad and obsessive, especially considering he still pursued Lum. Even after she started to get him, he still went after Lum. The idea that she could "take him away" from Lum likely spurred it on even further.

Do the math and all things add up to Ran being hopelessly in love with Rei. Now whether that would be a kind of relationship that'd work out in the end... that's another matter entirely.
Title: Re: Lum and Rei...?
Post by: Cosmic King on February 11, 2008, 05:52:20 PM
Excellent analysis of Ran´s love,sidzero

Since Ran received very little love she would make a big deal if Rei expresses in a caring way to her (the example would be the chapter when Rei "kisses" her even when he just licked some food of her cheek),however the ghost of her early days with Lum will still haunt her and slowing down her chances to have Rei for herself (if that is even possible),what she needs is some psychologist and Rei needs to be brainwashed.
Title: Re: Lum and Rei...?
Post by: sidzero on February 11, 2008, 07:37:40 PM
What can I say? One of my best skills is understanding people. Especially the crazy ones.